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To: Kevmo

Your hypothetical fails because you are wrong on your assumption that DPA5923 Inc’s lawyers would be successful in their lawsuits. They would not be.

This is not difficult. You do not have a right to a job or to be on another’s private property (ever hear of trespassing). If I ask (or tell) you to leave property that I have possessory rights over (owned or leased or rented etc, etc) and you refuse, you are trespassing and can be arrested and sued for the same.

If I as an employer do not like the fact that you appeared on TV last night in a commercial for my chief competitor, I am in my rights to fire you.

Hell, if I don’t like the way you said good morning to me, I am in my right to fire you. (aside from some contract obligation or legislative measure). Right to work states do not require a good reason or any reason to fire you.

If I forbid weapons on the property I have possessory rights over and you come on my property with a weapon, if I am your employer, I can fire you and if you are invited guest, I can uninvite you and demand you leave.

Your right to keep and bear arms does not trump my property rights just like your right to worship freely doesn’t mean you get to use my pool as a baptismal font.

I am amazed at how many conservatives are only interested in property rights when the owners of the property want to protect conservative interest.


167 posted on 10/12/2007 6:25:20 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: dpa5923

Your hypothetical fails because you are wrong on your assumption that DPA5923 Inc’s lawyers would be successful in their lawsuits. They would not be.
***Wrong. There actually have been cases where companies lost money because they chose to restrict a person’s right to freedom of speech, which is protected under our constitution. It’s not even a hypothetical — it’s real. That trumps all your nonsense.

This is not difficult. You do not have a right to a job or to be on another’s private
***blah blah blah... you’re intentionally overlooking the obvious. Of course the employer has the right to fire you, but he’s gonna get sued big time by DPA5923 Inc. if he takes away constitutionally protected rights. If that employer continues down that path, he will no longer be an employer because he’ll lose all of his money. The employer’s rights and the citizen’s rights collide. Within this interplay, the constitution has some say. Employers like to push people around and fire them for having green eyelashes if they can get away with it, and employees forget or don’t know that they have rights in our society.


169 posted on 10/12/2007 7:17:19 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq— via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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