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To: 2Am4Sure
interestingly, neither the First nor Second Amendments apply at the workplace.
2 posted on 10/07/2007 7:56:18 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

I don’t have a problem with an employer banning guns on it’s own property or property is has exclusive control over (like leased office space). I do have a problem with companies like mine, which prohibits guns in our cars parked in a multi-tenant parking garage.


7 posted on 10/07/2007 8:09:42 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: trumandogz
interestingly, neither the First nor Second Amendments apply at the workplace.

The original vision of the Founding Fathers like Jefferson, for example, was of a self sufficient,self reliant agrarian economy.

People WORKED, but they did not necessarily have JOBS (working for other people or worse, fictitious people known as corporations)

The Whiskey Rebellion was about exactly such an economy where farmers in Pennsylvania had everything they needed to live except cash-the one thing Hamilton's Federal Government demanded of them.

From then to now We The People have become more enslaved and more dependent.

Most people do not realize it, but your money (in Banks, in pension accounts, in real property)is not your money unless and until the Goobermint says it is your money.

So logically it is only a small step to extend rules to any area of your life and the Constitution at any time for any reason

Welcome to the future.

Best regards,

12 posted on 10/07/2007 8:15:56 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: trumandogz
If you disarm me as a condition of employment, then you as my employer are now responsible for my security.

If you fail in this, and someone ignores all your idiotic little plastic signs and goes on a shooting spree on your now disarmed campus... I'll sue your butt back to the Stone Age.

13 posted on 10/07/2007 8:16:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: trumandogz

They both apply at work.

Neither the first nor the 2nd sheild citizens from the consequences of their actions however.

If, as an employer, I do not want you saying X, Y, or Z at work, you still have the right to say X, Y, and Z. I also have the right to fire you. If I, as the employer, do not want you to bring weapons or hotdogs to work, you still have the right to bring them. I also have the right to fire you.

Neither the first nor second amendments force me, as an employer, to give you a job and keep you employed if you refuse to follow the requirements of the job or expectations while on the job.


22 posted on 10/07/2007 8:23:45 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: trumandogz
interestingly, neither the First nor Second Amendments apply at the workplace.

Ah, but does the right to possess firearms exist off the workplace? Or did our little judge address that.

23 posted on 10/07/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: trumandogz
<>Iinterestingly, neither the First nor Second Amendments apply at the workplace.

While I might agree with you about the 2nd here (although I would probably argue that the rights of the private property owner need to be taken into account here too), I don't see how the 1st is being violated in any way, shape or form.

The 1st says "Congress shall make no law". How does a private employer fit in here?

27 posted on 10/07/2007 8:28:17 AM PDT by KenHorse (It may be the only purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others)
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To: trumandogz

“interestingly, neither the First nor Second Amendments apply at the workplace.”

interesting, the Tenth Amendment leaves it up to the states


30 posted on 10/07/2007 8:30:13 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: trumandogz

Yup, rights are only allowed, inside your home. Eventually, only allowed inside your cell.


161 posted on 10/09/2007 6:06:47 PM PDT by Professional
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