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Taking a hammer to Comcast[Northern Virginia]
Potomacnews.com ^ | 06 Oct 2007 | KIPP HANLEY

Posted on 10/09/2007 9:43:10 AM PDT by BGHater

Mona Shaw had heard and seen enough from Comcast, her local cable television provider.

After repeated attempts to change her phone service from Verizon to Comcast's Triple Play during a week in August, the 75-year-old Bristow resident with a heart condition took out her frustrations at the Manassas payment center on Center Street.

Shaw was arrested for disorderly conduct after she took a hammer to several items in the office - all the while saying, "Have I got your attention now?"

While Shaw's actions Aug. 20 were extreme, the inability of the cable company to finish the job they started at her house is a story told many times over by Manassas customers.

The city is negotiating an updated franchise agreement with Comcast, as well as a new cable agreement with Verizon.

Customer service is one of the main issues the city examined in its recent review of Comcast's old agreement. In June, the council held a public hearing and residents had virtually nothing good to say about Comcast. According to Councilman Jonathan Way, it hasn't gotten any better since then.

Way said the gist of resident calls he has received recently is still negative.

"They [Comcast] keep passing the buck off to other departments, and the other departments don't come back in a timely fashion," Way said. "It's a shameful and unmanaged operating business over there."

Both Way and Prince William County spokesperson Liz Bahrns said that when local government leaders raise individual issues or concerns from their residents to Comcast, the cable company responds very promptly. But Way feels like it's only when these issues are taken up with upper management or with their elected officials that the cable company responds quickly to residents' concerns.

"The quality problem is with the routine customer service, where customers expect to be managed effectively but are not," Way said.

During the public hearing, Comcast said it has been upgrading its system in the city and that has resulted in periodic cable blackouts late this summer.

According to statistical data from 2006 provided by Comcast to the city, the cable company resolved two-thirds of the 570 calls referred to the maintenance department in five days or less, a number that jumped to 75 percent during non-winter months.

Comcast resolved 90 percent of all other service calls in five days or less during that 12-month period. But counting the winter months, that still left more than 500 people out of 4,270 waiting for a resolution after five days.

A Comcast representative was not able to speak about the incident in Manassas, but the company issued a lengthy statement, saying, in part, "We recognize that there is room for improvement and that even one bad customer experience is one too many. It is our goal to continue bringing customers in Northern Virginia the most advanced products and services we offer ... and to

ensure that they have a great experience at every touchpoint."

Shaw's problems began when she and her husband, Don, waited all day Aug. 13 for a Comcast worker to come to their house to install its much-publicized Triple Play service, which includes digital cable, digital voice and high-speed Internet service. The Shaws were Comcast customers already but wanted to upgrade.

No one came Aug. 13 but two days later, a representative arrived.

According to Shaw, the Comcast worker didn't finish the job, told her that he needed a third party to finish it and left his equipment there.

Before leaving, the cable guy gave her the option of changing her phone number, but Shaw said she didn't want to change a number that she has had for 34 years.

The next day the Shaws couldn't receive calls but were eventually able to make calls.

That Friday, Shaw spent the morning on the phone with Comcast and made a frustrating trip to its Manassas office that resulted in no assistance from a company manager, she said.

When the Shaws returned home, they discovered they had no phone service at all.

A cell phone call to Comcast resulted in their receiving a new number and a promise that someone from the company would call on Monday. In the meantime, the Shaws figured out on their own how to plug their phone directly into the equipment the worker left.

That weekend, Shaw called the State Corporation Commission, the regulatory agency with authority over Virginia businesses. She says she spoke with the SCC's Larry Kubrock and was promised that someone from his agency would contact Comcast.

The Shaws waited Monday for a call. Finally, around 4:30 p.m., Mona Shaw put a hammer in her purse and returned to the Manassas Comcast office.

"I smashed a keyboard, knocked over a monitor ... and I went to hit the telephone," Mona said. "I figured, 'Hey my telephone is screwed up, so is yours.' "

Shaw said she was panic-stricken the previous Friday when they came home to no service because of her need in the past for emergency medical help. Their house on Bristow Road isn't close to a neighboring house.

"It's totally not like me to do stuff like this," she said. "But it is so irresponsible and so disrespectful [what they did]. I can't think of any company reacting that way. It's like they got you in their clutches and they'll do what they damn well please."

The day after her arrest, Comcast called her husband and said they could switch her to the Triple Play service but the couple would have to wait a week. He demanded that the company come out the next day and remove their equipment and told the company they were returning to Verizon for phone service.

Comcast did as her husband requested, but several weeks later the Shaws received a letter from the company thanking them for subscribing.

That was typical Comcast, Shaw said.

"They are so confused, they don't seem to know what the hell they're doing. You begin to wonder how well they are trained," she said.

In a public statement, Comcast said it holds all its employees, whether they are in-house or contracted, to the same standards and expects them to provide quality service.

Mona Shaw's disorderly conduct case will be heard in Prince William District Court in December.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bristow; cable; comcast; hammer

1 posted on 10/09/2007 9:43:13 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Ma Bell knows phone service better than a cable company ever will.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 9:45:56 AM PDT by misterrob (Five down, 14 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Hmmm...


3 posted on 10/09/2007 9:48:50 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro!)
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To: BGHater

She meant to say, “Can you hear me know?”


4 posted on 10/09/2007 9:52:21 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: misterrob

I think I would have to give her a standing ovation in court. Ha...


5 posted on 10/09/2007 9:53:05 AM PDT by BigFinn
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To: BGHater
Similar thing happened to me with Charter. Tried to hook up their phone service. They sent out a contract guy who didn't know what he was doing. Disconnected my alarm system, screwed up half the phones in the house, left bare wires hanging outside then left, never to be heard of again.

One week trying to get all this fixed almost gave me a heart attack. The operators were so so soothing and sympathetic but did nothing. Half the time they'd put me on hold and then disconnect me. Sometimes I just got cut off in the middle of the conversation.

Day 8 my wife went up to the Charter retail store in the mall and told the counter guy and everyone in the store the story and refused to leave until he gave her the number of a local manager, which he finally did (the operators on the national contact number steadfastly refused to do this). After about 10 calls to this guy he finally sent someone out to fix the mess.

6 posted on 10/09/2007 9:53:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Lil'freeper

Is there a legal defense fund?

1-666-Comcast. Toll free number of the antichrist.


7 posted on 10/09/2007 9:55:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: BGHater

I went with Verizon FiOS TV and Internet just to not have to give money to Comcast, among other reasons.

However...Verizon’s billing is the worst piece of crap I’ve run into, but that’s another story. Basically, if you opt NOT to have Verizon phone service but want the internet and TV service with FiOS...billing is a nightmare.


8 posted on 10/09/2007 9:58:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: BGHater
I've long since given up on Comcast for video (I now have DirectTV, better service, lower prices) but still have a Comcast cable modem. My cable internet access was down Thursday to Monday this week and last - Comcast's response was that unless I pay for business service my use "is assumed to be recreational", and that they they would get service back up when convenient, on a non-priority basis. I wonder if they would accept the same attitude from me with regard to paying my bill?

The day that AT&T runs fiber past my house, Comcast is history.

Meanwhile, in other news:

"PHILADELPHIA — The chairman and chief executive of Comcast (CMCSA), the nation's largest cable television operator, received a 2006 compensation package valued by the company at $27.8 million, according to a proxy statement filed with federal regulators Thursday.

Brian Roberts was given a salary of $2.5 million, a bonus of $3 million, incentive awards worth $8.4 million and other perks valued at $2.9 million, which included personal use of the company plane, contributions to retirement plans and payment of tax liabilities and insurance policies."

9 posted on 10/09/2007 10:00:43 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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To: BGHater

Comcast systematically bought up all the old
TV service providers around the nation. In
effect they tried to run the operation on
old, outdated, and much-bweathered cable lines
which ran above the ground, through peoples’
back yards and mangled by overgrown tree branches.
DSeaperate and immediate repairsa were the first
major consideration.

Some communities no longer allow above ground
cable lines and insist the companies install
underground cables like the phone companies
now must do. THAT’s an expensive undertaking!
Comcast wasn’t prepared for dishing out the
kind of money entailed in moderniZing service.
When they took over our USCable company here in
ILlinois, I wondered why the SUITS in the head
offices didn’t checked on WHY the old cable
companies were in the market for selling out.
Guess they found out!


10 posted on 10/09/2007 10:01:24 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: DManA
Good for you, getting somewhere with them. My cable box from Charter works less than half the time, and only starts working again if you blow air from a fan on it steadily! Their techs, whether over the phone or a house call, refuse to acknowledge that the box even has a problem!!
11 posted on 10/09/2007 10:05:06 AM PDT by PCBMan (Now with extra zazz!!)
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To: RockinRight
SBC/AT&T had told me for the past five years that our home was outside the 18,000 + feet maximum distance to get high speed DSL service. I asked the company to drop a temporary service in while road improvements were going on and the line tech concluded I might be able to get this feature. His theory was some of the line went cross country and I could be inside the 18,000 feet. He was right. I’m looking forward to getting rid of my old dial-up connection... I wish there were more people like this guy.
12 posted on 10/09/2007 10:05:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: misterrob

I would suggest that there are a few whip companies in the next town over that said the same thing about getting transportation to move faster. Unfortunately, cars and trucks didn’t need whips.

The paradigm has shifted and Ma bell (or her descendants) need to shift with it.


13 posted on 10/09/2007 10:06:28 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: BGHater

Sounds like Comcast is adopting the America Online customer service model.


14 posted on 10/09/2007 10:07:54 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: BGHater
Mona Shaw's disorderly conduct case will be heard in Prince William District Court in December.

I rather doubt that. I can't picture Comcast allowing its employees to be put on the stand by her defense attorneys. Comcast will ask well before the trial date to have the charges dropped. They'd do it right now, except that if they did it while the story's hot the media would give the move heavy coverage, and they'd immediately have hordes of customers showing up at their offices brandishing hammers, baseball bats, you name it.

15 posted on 10/09/2007 10:09:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: RockinRight

I don’t think we have Concast out here just Cox, Dish and DirectTV. I hate Dish as it must go out at least once a day.


16 posted on 10/09/2007 10:10:09 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: BigFinn

You and a thousand other people who actually live nearby. That’s another reason the trial will never happen.


17 posted on 10/09/2007 10:11:35 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: hsmomx3

My Dish service is great. I’ll lose the signal in a heavy rain but only momentarily.


18 posted on 10/09/2007 10:14:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: misterrob
A relative has phone service with knology and she has been trying to get her phone service disconnected. She came home one day and her internet service was disconnected but her phone was working great. She has been working on it for about 5 months now. I do not want to have anything to do with a cable phone service.
19 posted on 10/09/2007 10:15:13 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I’ve been with Packet8 phone service via my Comcast cable internet service for around two years, and have had no real problems to speak of.


20 posted on 10/09/2007 10:15:14 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Vermont Lt
Telcos understand phone service better than anyone else simply because they have been doing it for so many years. I have done the Vonage thing and dumped it after two weeks given the crappy acoustics (packetized voice is simply not up to snuff in my book). Perhaps the limits of voice/IP will continue to lessen but until MSOs and VOIP build adequate network facilities then they simply cannot compete on quality.
21 posted on 10/09/2007 10:16:44 AM PDT by misterrob (Five down, 14 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We’ll lose the signal for no reason and I am in Arizona! It takes about five minutes before it is up and running again. I would love to get out of that contract as we never had these problems with Cox.


22 posted on 10/09/2007 10:17:17 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: DManA

Just wait if the Dem’s get all three branches of government
this next election....taxes will go sky high, crime will sky rocket, regulations will increase.....AND NOTHING WILL WORK. Just like COMCRAP!


23 posted on 10/09/2007 10:23:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: misterrob
packetized voice is simply not up to snuff in my book

Voice quality on our VoIP service was poor for the first three months, to the point where an international conversation was impossible (poor analog segments added to the problems there). Firmware upgrades and a router change (principally setting up the VoIP box as a demilitarized zone) made all the difference in the world and the voice quality is now near perfect.

24 posted on 10/09/2007 10:30:43 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

If you work for a larger company who can afford to invest in good equipment and SW then I see no reason to have bad service. The residential market isn’t there yet though.


25 posted on 10/09/2007 10:39:03 AM PDT by misterrob (Five down, 14 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: BGHater

She should ask for a jury trial...


26 posted on 10/09/2007 10:43:05 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: hsmomx3

Horror stories. Here’s mine. Had Verizon phone service and needed to make some changes. Nearly had a nervous breakdown trying to deal with them. Horrible service. Switched to Fibernet and it’s great. Had Charter Cable/Internet service. They recently were bought out by Suddenlink. Service is still good. When our Modem went out, they came right away and replaced it. We seldom lose connection, even in storms. Pretty happy with what we now have.


27 posted on 10/09/2007 10:49:02 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: hsmomx3
Trees ? Something coming between your home and the satellite ?
I'll bet its an installation issue. We have a perect HD picture.
28 posted on 10/09/2007 10:54:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: BGHater

If just one of those Democrats running in ‘08 realizes that crappy customer service is the single issue he can ride to the stars, we’re screwed. The other candidates can haggle over gay marriage and stem cells all they want - nobody’s even going to notice them.


29 posted on 10/09/2007 10:55:14 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BGHater

HATE COMCAST and dumped their service last month. We now have verizon phone, DSL and DirecTV.
We’ve had no trouble with verizon...directv was easy and now we have everything on one bill.

hubby is thrilled with Directv and their NFL ticket.


30 posted on 10/09/2007 11:12:18 AM PDT by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: BGHater

Locally here in SoCal Comcast was bought out by Time Warner. I would have to say I’m not pleased with Time Warner. Comcast was better.


31 posted on 10/09/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer
Locally here in SoCal Comcast was bought out by Time Warner. I would have to say I’m not pleased with Time Warner. Comcast was better.

Interesting. Our switch from Comcast to Time Warner showed a marked improvement. I hated Comcast. (Internet only. DirecTV is awesome and I trust Verizon with my phone.)

32 posted on 10/09/2007 11:32:08 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: scan59

I have Verizon for my BB service. It really has the best coverage.


33 posted on 10/09/2007 11:48:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Have I got your attention now?”

LOL!

Ah, the stories I could tell about Sprint’s local phone “service.” Why, the day I finally got fed up and dialed the Utilities Commission for my state, the line worked just long enough for someone to pick up the phone at the other end...


34 posted on 10/09/2007 3:45:27 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: Titan Magroyne; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ..
The Comcast business model:



35 posted on 10/09/2007 4:46:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Be deranged in a consistent manner. Manson was nuts, but at least he was always on message." --dead)
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To: BGHater

This is typical of how a phone/cable company operates. I used to do contract work for Sprint and I’ve seen how these businesses operate, or lack thereof. The entire customer side of the business is like a massive bureaucracy. One hand has no idea what the other is doing, or if it even exists at times.

These places try to run a local business from hundreds of miles away and they do a horrible job at it. The management of such companies believe that all they need to serve their customers are a bunch of call centers and work at the customer’s premises will just magically happen as soon as the customer service rep hits the Enter key.

I work in IT now, and when we require the phone company to do something during a project, I always advise that whenever the phone company provides a date for when their task will be complete to not expect anything to be working that day and to plan accordingly. I’ve only been wrong once with this. lol


36 posted on 10/09/2007 6:56:01 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

37 posted on 10/09/2007 7:58:05 PM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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