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To: ClearBlueSky
OK, I understand your point of view.

I just don't agree with all of it.

For example, there is a major difference between Catholics and Protestants. They are both "Christians". Catholic "terrorists" in Belfast killed and maimed thousands. Are all Catholics "terrorists" and should be eliminated like rats? Of course not. Certain "branches" are more radical than others.

Unfortunately, there are radical Muslims who indeed, support some of the notions that you mention, and give other Muslims a very bad name. These radical individuals should be considered our enemies and treated as such.

For reasons which I hope are obvious, please do NOT paint EVERY Muslim with the same brush. Every Muslim doesn't secretly have the desire or "command" to kill the "infidel", anymore than every Catholic has a desire to kill all Protestants.
Each has the ability and the responsibility to decide what is propper behaviour for him/herself.

BTW, I am Catholic

75 posted on 10/16/2007 9:49:00 AM PDT by China Clipper
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To: China Clipper

I am Catholic too. The comparison you make avoids the main issue.
Compare the Koran to the New Testament.
The CORE of Islam is to make the world submit to it- by violent means if necessary.
NOWHERE in the New Testament are there orders to kill and dominate by violence( jihad) as there are in the Koran.
Catholic ‘terrorists’ are an ABERRATION. They are acting AGAINST their religious teachings.
If local priests in Ireland are calling for the murder of Protestants from their pulpits- they are acting against what Catholicism teaches. They are bringing politics into religion. Islam and politics are one.
Muslim terrorists are OBEYING the very core of Islam.
Catholics/Christians don’t kill each other if they question the religion, or wish to convert to another. Muslims do- and Islam orders them to!
Every Muslim may not have the desire to kill all infidels-or the guts- but their religion tells them they should!
Islam is evil. Those who belong to it and do not obey it will, nevertheless, not get any points from me for not actively obeying it. That’s like saying a Klan family- supporting the male who actually goes out to terrorize blacks and Jews- is ‘good’ despite their refusal to reject the prejudice.
Each Muslim MAY have the responsiblity to decide proper behavior for themselves, but Islam does not give them the right to do so.
I ask again- why is it normal and accepted to think that a Republican believes what the party stands for, that a NAMBLA member believes in sex with boys, and that a Catholic/Christian believes in the teaching of Jesus Christ but NOT to attach the individual Muslim to Islam and what
its goals are? Do you agree that Islam- as a belief system- is evil? If not- do you agree that the world is certainly getting plenty of proof of its evil side?
If so- how can an individual Muslim expect to be considered good while associating themselves with it?
If I announce myself as belonging to a neo-Nazi group, will you insist that I do not REALLY believe blacks and Jews are sub-human? Why? Why the insistence that Muslims do not believe the religion they claim? Especially when the face of that religion is now revealed and is terrorizing the world?
It’s ludicrous!
I’m honestly trying to understand the almost desperate insistence on separating Muslims from Islam.
We don’t do that with any other group.
They won’t disavow the Koran in any way, they won’t reform it to make clear what they DO believe, they hold every word holy and unchangeable( including the parts that are being acted upon to terrorize the world), but that doesn’t matter?
The Koran is the problem. ISLAM is the problem, and the enemy.
Would you, seriously.tell a black person that someone who admits to being associated with the Klan is not their enemy?
I’m sorry- if you’re proud to call yourself a member of NAMBLA, I WILL judge you as a practicing/or supporting sick pervert.
Why then should I not consider every Muslim who reveres and defends a ‘religion’ that calls for my submission/destruction as my enemy?


76 posted on 10/16/2007 10:25:22 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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