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Family of girl killed during SC bike ride sues MS Society
WIS TV ^ | 10-15-2007 | MissEdie

Posted on 10/15/2007 8:58:36 AM PDT by MissEdie

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To: Jeffrey_D.; The_Media_never_lie
Casualty doesn't necessarily mean death, but rather just injury or trauma.

Among the general public, casualties is sometimes misunderstood to be the same thing as fatalities (deaths), but non-fatal injuries are also casualties.

41 posted on 10/15/2007 9:49:16 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Society Hill is about 20 miles from me. Never heard reports of this.


42 posted on 10/15/2007 9:52:16 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: visualops

The fact that the father was leading the pack and obviously had already travelled thru this dangerous stretch amkes him more responsible than anyone.

If it was really unsafe, he should have gone back to warn others including his kids.

Does anyone know, was the son injured?


43 posted on 10/15/2007 9:53:07 AM PDT by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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To: jdm

I agree...I was just pointing out that quoting 4 words is the way “they” do it, not us.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 10:02:17 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (Some people are alive simply because it's illegal to shoot them !!!!)
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To: GOP_Proud
Ensuring that these type of charity events will be eventually stopped.

I think a part of the problem was it was a tandem. I've never ridden one, but those out there who have, I'm interested to hear you reason against they are less safe than individual bikes. Sure they look cute but keep them off tricky roads. You're probably right though and an over-reaction will be the likely result.

Could you imagine an event like the running of the bulls in the states?

45 posted on 10/15/2007 10:03:21 AM PDT by samp in mo
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To: Jeffrey_D.; All

anytime! I still can’t figure out the “no charges”

The truck was pulling a trailer ... that was filled with settlement fees earned by John Edwards.

(sarcasm off)


46 posted on 10/15/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, now on his way back the U.S.A.!!!)
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To: trumandogz

I’m a 13 ride MS Tour veteran. Traffic control has always been from volunteers. The chapter I ride for used to use the National Guard, but they are kinda busy right now. It is always the cyclists responsibility to take care of his own traffic control.

What tour do you do?

I do the Michigan one.


47 posted on 10/15/2007 10:08:05 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

If you’d like I can PM you a power point I just gave on bike safety with current accident stats. The spandex crew might be able to change your mind.


48 posted on 10/15/2007 10:13:07 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: cyclotic

Houston to Austin.

186 miles and 12,000+ riders.


49 posted on 10/15/2007 10:14:37 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: MissEdie

I helped work a couple of rides like this for the MS Society and other charities in central Virginia back in the ‘90s, as part of an amateur radio club providing communication support at the rest stops and “sag wagons.” Normally the routes for rides like this were intentionally kept off US highways as much as possible, and kept to state highways or (preferably) county roads with lower traffic. That having been said, there was little to no traffic control in place. The local jurisdictions and the Virginia State Police knew the ride was happening, and knew about when and where the bulk of the riders would be coming through, but other than that, safe riding was the responsibility of the bikers. And yes, they signed releases.

On rare occasions, the sag wagons (vans/trucks to pick up folks who want to drop out) would sit back and hold up traffic for exceptionally slow riders or in dangerous areas, but that was very uncommon, because we were told that we could get ticketed for it. Likewise, we were told that no matter what, we had to obey all traffic laws and could not drive with our warning flashers on. The bicyclists were also told that they had to obey all traffic laws, especially riding single-file. They never did. I lost count of the number of times I saw riders three- and four-abreast on blind curves, almost daring some 18-wheeler to blast around the corner from behind them and turn them into bugs on its grille.

We did have riders get in trouble in certain areas, mostly in the mountains. One charity ride was coming down US 501 north of Lynchburg, which is a steep and twisty two-lane, when a rider locked up his front brake, slammed into the outer guardrail, and went thirty feet down an embankment. The good news was, he landed on a stump, and that was the only thing that kept him from a four-hundred-foot roll down a mountain. The bad news was, he broke his pelvis when he landed (along with slashing himself open on the guardrail as he went over). That same ride had somebody else go off into a rocky creekbed at 40 mph...he wasn’t seriously hurt, and all he cared about was his bike. I took him his stuff (broken sunglasses, dented helmet, etc.) at the hospital and ran into his wife, who said nothing else but “oh, he does this all the time!” Oookaaaayy.

}:-)4


50 posted on 10/15/2007 10:18:06 AM PDT by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

If bike are going to ride on roads then the operators need to pass the same driving test and be licensed just as automobile operators.


I suspect most cyclist have passed an auto driving test when getting their drivers license except those that are under the legal auto driving age.


51 posted on 10/15/2007 10:21:49 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 91 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: trumandogz

Houston to Austin.


Curious...... have you ever participated in or been to the Hotter’n Hundred?


52 posted on 10/15/2007 10:26:31 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 91 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: deport

Hotter’n Hundred = Hotter’n Hell Hundred


53 posted on 10/15/2007 10:27:28 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 91 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: deport

No, friends have. Not me not in middle of summer in Texas.


54 posted on 10/15/2007 10:28:02 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: wideawake
Ambulance driver to patient

I see your new attorney Edwards in my rear view mirror.

55 posted on 10/15/2007 10:31:08 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: trumandogz

Wow, 12,000 cyclists.

All that spandex would drive resolute conservative right into the loony bin.

Our is about 1,000 riders but I just heard that we crossed $1,000,000 raised for the year.


56 posted on 10/15/2007 10:39:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: cyclotic

The 2008 Houston to Austin MS 150 registration filled up in three days. They say it has the most riders of any MS 150. The ride has great support but is very crowded is some spots along the route.


57 posted on 10/15/2007 10:42:50 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: deport
I did the Century in the Hotter 'n Hell 3 times, but when I moved to South Carolina in the 90's I gave up bicycling.

When I first moved there, I went to a Bike club meeting and there were member's missing arms and legs from being run over during group rides.

I said "screw that" and took up auto racing as hobby, because it's much safer.

58 posted on 10/15/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: cyclotic

Only if it includes a way I can ride a bike without causing male sensitive area irritations on those darn seats.


59 posted on 10/15/2007 10:48:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Not a problem.

Get a pair of spandex shorts with a gel liner or even better a natural chamois. Then get a split seat designed for men. The split seat isolates the cyatic nerve and prevents numbing.

BTW, I’m the father of four so everything works.


60 posted on 10/15/2007 10:53:07 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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