[sam_paine]

P2BR...I'm on your side with my favorable assessment of my experience with GM vehicles. I've simply had little if any trouble. It's frankly shocking to me that I'm on a first year model of a new drivetrain in the 98-1/2 pickups, and 150k of zero maintenance, other than lube and oil change, and nothing but having to clean some wierd carbon buildup off the throttle plate every 60k that makes the throttle sticky at idle.

I don't believe that manufacturing employees make the primary difference at 100k+ miles in automotive car systems or consumer electronics.

Manufacturing screwups are most apparent in the first 20,000ish miles....squeaks, misfit leaks, bad components, etc.

The design gives you the long term reliability, and that's why I'd prefer a car designed in Detroit and built in Canada than a car designed in Tokyo and built in Georgia.

I'd brefer a car designed in Detroit and built by non-union labor in Arlington, but that's not possible today!

But let me depart with you on the "that country killed X no. Americans in WWII."

Puhlease! We probably don't have a better, true ally than the Nipponese in Asia, bar Australia. They adapted some of our society and culture, they have fewer socialist commies in their government, it is not a 'bad' thing to be a conservative in that country, and it's one of the ONLY countries in the world where you can see toddlers running around dressed in t-shirts emblazoned with red/white/blue and old glory.

We won! Get over it!

[Proud2BeRight]

You may have missed the point. It was in response to the lame union comment by another poster. I figure that if he wants to give the union as an excuse to not buy American and give the money to Japan, I’ll use the fact that 100,000 Americans died at their hands. Fortunately, my Dad was not one of them.