Momma and baby are doing fine. Dad looks a little worse for the wear, though...
Posted on 10/18/2007 3:50:09 AM PDT by gridlock
During a difficult pregnancy, Elizabeth Jones was monitored every day because doctors were worried about the health of her baby.
But on the day of the birth, she was twice turned away from the hospital because it was full - forcing her partner to deliver the baby himself at their home.
Miss Jones, 24, and her partner Anthony Jones - who coincidentally share the same surname - dashed to their local maternity unit when she started to have strong contractions.
However, their excitement at the prospect of the birth soon turned to horror when staff on the ward told them: "Sorry we are full. Come back later."
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"It was a great experience - but at the time I wished we were in hospital in a controlled environment," Mr Jones, 39, said. "What if something had gone wrong?
"It's worrying that the only maternity hospital for miles around had to turn us away twice just while Elizabeth was in the last stages of labour.
"You hear so much about the NHS being under pressure but you would think that maternity would be a priority. Many things can wait for a later appointment - but never a baby.
(snip)
"I just saw Emily's head coming out as the paramedics arrived. But they said I was doing a good job and I should just carry on.
(snip)
A spokesman for the hospital said: "The maternity unit from time to time experiences peaks in demand and during the last 12 months we have seen an increase in births at the Princess of Wales Hospital.
"We can confirm that it was necessary for this unit to close recently for a short time to new maternity admissions due to the unit reaching full capacity."
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Momma and baby are doing fine. Dad looks a little worse for the wear, though...
The way I see it, Mum avoided a nasty bout of MRSA
You really have to hand it to the Brits. They have brought back “survival of the fittest.”
Charles Darwin would be delighted.
Britain.........
Dad looks like he was the one born.
Another illigitimate baby.
Partners? Socialized medicine? Aint modern life great!
>>Miss Jones, 24, and her partner Anthony Jones - who coincidentally share the same surname -<<
Heaven forbid that anyone think they were actually married.
I haven’t read one of these articles from the UK in ages where the couple were married. What is the benefit of not being husband and wife?
Well, atleast they didn’t lie about it. I can’t tell you the number of times I have been lied to regarding people who say they are married and really aren’t.
It’s usually about insurance and benefits and the corporations are full of them.
I don’t really get that either. It seems that by the time the second child came along, they might have gotten ‘round to it.
“Partner”?!
The UK news outlets have adopted California’s Mother is an obscene word?
One of the most dangerous plays in Baseball is when two outfielders collide while running with their eyes on the ball. If Dad says “I got it!”, the paramedics have to stand down.
LOL!
“Another illegitimate baby.”
Yeah, that little person is “illigitimate”. The hospital was right not to deal with those sinners. /s
You are on a disgusting roll this morning. That child did nothing to deserve any label you apply to it. I have no doubt you claim to be some kind of Christian. Your kind is why I will not set foot in a church.
Cute kids. Glad all turned out well for them.
So why don’t they get married, already? They look happy together, and it appears they had their first kid a couple years ago.
Not to get all preachy, but don't assume that all judgemental people are in churches or all people in churches are judgemental. I know in my church we have all sorts of people in all sorts of situations, and we love them all.
Hope springs eternal. They may get 'round to it someday...
Ours is full of sinners...
“How about some reality; “illegitimate” is what the parents have done to the baby.”
BS. That baby is no less legitimate than you or I. No less a person, no less anything.
“I know in my church we have all sorts of people in all sorts of situations, and we love them all.”
You are right, mine was not a fair statement. The “holier-than-though” judgmentalism just brings back memories from some of my personal church experiences.
God-less?
He: I'm not going to your church. It's full of hypocrites.
She: There's always room for one more.
“Come back later”. LOL.
According to a previous article, this is actually a married couple. Is this some kind of sarcastic comment on new PC style recommendations?
“Do you think it doesn’t matter?”
Sure it matters. Never said it didn’t. The family unit is the basis of civilization. That said, no child is illegitimate. We should not transfer the sins of the parents onto the children. They may be born out of wedlock which statistically puts them at a disadvantage but I do not believe in derogatory labeling of the innocent. If stigma is to be applied, focus on the parents and leave the innocent child out of it.
Just to add, “illegitimate” in this context means strictly not born into a family. A family is what is created in a marriage ceremony (modern redefinition notwithstanding). As such the label “illegitimate” addresses a need of the child that is not being met i.e its a criticism of the parents.
With them having the same last name, the writer of the previous article may have incorrectly assumed that they were married.
Yeah, that little person is “illigitimate”. The hospital was right not to deal with those sinners. /s You are on a disgusting roll this morning. That child did nothing to deserve any label you apply to it. I have no doubt you claim to be some kind of Christian. Your kind is why I will not set foot in a church.
il·le·git·i·mate Function: adjective Date: 1536 1: not recognized as lawful offspring; specifically : born of parents not married to each other
FACT:The child is illegitimate, and I also spelled it correctly.
FACT:The hospital said they were full, no mention of a turn away because the adults are to lazy or lack motivation to marry so BOTH of their children can have a family unit.
What does being a Christian have anything to do with being able to have an opinion? You don't go to church so you are allowed to say anything you want without retort? Naaa, don't think so.
Your kind is why I will not set foot in a church.
I don't believe you. This is my opinion, I think you like to think everything goes. You just don't like it when others call you or someone else on the carpet regarding a situation. No rules, no foundation, just a political and personal platform built on quicksand. No laws and no rules means we have no civilized society.
“I believe the scientific term you are looking for is “bastard”. That is what the child is, through no fault of its’ own. Sad.”
Indeed. I’m trying to imagine carrying a label like that for life. “Bastard”. It’s a terrible thing to do to a child. Something I don’t believe we should be doing. It seems to only serve to further lessen the child’s chances, especially in the formidable years.
guess once we have socialized medicine here, I should just plan on having the rest of my children at home. Bummer about the lack of epidural, though.
“This is my opinion, I think you like to think everything goes. You just don’t like it when others call you or someone else on the carpet regarding a situation.”
You are entitled to any opinion you wish to hold but you will be mistaken. I have a real problem with out-of-wedlock births for the obvious reasons. Funny, people who know me would laugh at the “anything goes” notion.
My point on this thread is that the child should not be labeled as “illegitimate” because of the actions of the parents. I could care less what a dictionary says on the matter. Applying a stigma to those with no choice in the matter is wrong, IMO. It’s “us” and “them” BS. More divisions, more labels, more grouping, more crap.
Any excuse not to go to church will work. If you want to blame it on me, feel free.
Personally, I’d prefer that people go to parents and inform them that illegitimacy really isn’t good for their children. It’s amazing that so many parents really don’t know this.
“It is a label that liberals don’t like because it focuses attention on the fact that families really aren’t any random collection of individuals and that mother and especially fathers do matter.”
Funny, I’ve always pictured liberals as the labelers for their divide and conquer strategy.
Again, my focus here is on the child, not liberals, conservatives, politicians or social scientists. Dumping all this on a new-born is just wrong. No child should grow up believing he is less of a person because he carries some label around defining him as less than the rest of us because his parents weren’t married when he was born.
I’m not condoning having kids out of wedlock. It is not a good idea and puts the child at a disadvantage. I see no need to exponentially aggravate that with social-stigma labels that follow one for life.
Yeah, that happens from time to time. You should try going back every now and again, though. They might surprise you. If not, there are a lot of other churches out there.
“I could care less what a dictionary says on the matter.”
So we get back to how you “feel” about the word. Despite your niggardly approach to the proper use of language, the word has it own proper use and meaning. Words mean things.
Hmmm. I was just thinking, in Biblical times didn't the marriage ceremony just involve meeting each other in the tent and consummating? Maybe I read it wrong.
But to get back to the horrors of Socialized Medicine...
This thread was about Socialized Medicine, after all...
Taxes, sometimes in Europe couples actually pay less in taxes if they live together but don’t marry.
“So we get back to how you “feel” about the word.”
Nope. It’s what I THINK that particular label does to a child in an already disadvantaged situation. It only makes it worse.
“Words mean things.”
They sure do. My point, exactly.
Anyone read the comments.
This is my favorite.
Yet another NHS failing - fortunately for Mr & Miss Jones there weren’t any complications. It’s about time these Hospital trusts became accountable for such actions, but it’ll just go on record as a successful home birth. At least Miss Jones won’t run the risk of getting a hospital infection!
Congratulations to you both.
- Ct, Northants, Northampton
How did that happen? What is the reasoning?
Welfare benefits?
Your article btw makes a point of the illegitimacy of this child. I know you wanted to highlight the “horrors of Socialized Medicine” but there is more than one horror in this story. However it’s your thread so I’ll quit posting on the subject.
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