[narby]

If you want to defeat Hillary, don't support Rudy.

So tell my how some other candidate will do in Nov 2008 better than Rudy, and exactly why.

If you tell me that hard core conservatives will stay home and not vote for Rudy. Fine. I think Rudy will pick up more centrists and liberals. So tell me why there will be more stubborn conservatives determined to help Hillary win by staying home than there will be gain from picking up centrists?

[ex-snook]

"I think Rudy will pick up more centrists and liberals."

By Jove, I think you got it. A vote for Rudy is a win for liberals.

[Grunthor]

“I think Rudy will pick up more centrists and liberals.”

And that is a good thing HOW exactly?

[Mr Rogers]

So tell me why there will be more stubborn conservatives determined to help Hillary win by staying home than there will be gain from picking up centrists?

Because the Media will deliver the centrists, while Rudy loses a significant chunk of the base - either from not voting, or not 'campaigning' to get more votes when talking to their friends.

Arnold has taught some of us a hard lesson (although I didn't vote for him, glad to say). If Rudy is the nominee, there will be no one for conservatives to get excited about. If he is elected, we'll get from him what Arnold has given California.

No thanks.