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NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE
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| 10/20/2007
| by ex-snook
Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Perfesser
Aha. So that's what we're getting down to. Rudy is worse than Hillary. You, I am afraid, have gone over the edge.
Not at all. I recognize the trainwreck that Rudi is: a genuine endorsed and funded NARAL Champion Of Choice™. You can't say that about even Hitlery. Even she hasn't been that radical.
And I still don't believe the Brady Bill and the AWB could have passed without Rudy's help. The Xlintons themselves gave him public credit as the key supporter of their gungrabbing efforts. And Rudi went on to try to abuse the courts and harass gun manufacturers, leading our GOP Congress to pass bills to protect gun manufacturers. Protect them from whom? From Rudi and his protege, Bloomberg. And Rudi is a well-known hater of the Religious Right and can scarcely conceal his contempt for us.
Let's look at GOA's summary:
In 1993, before even being sworn in as mayor, Giuliani met with then-President Clinton at the White House to discuss national gun registration. Giuliani supported the Brady bill, which had recently passed, but argued that it didn't go far enough.
The President, largely crediting Giuliani for the idea, enthusiastically sent Attorney General Janet Reno off to develop a gun licensing and registration system.
The Clinton-Giuliani scheme was slowed only by the Republican Revolution of 1994.
Rudy Giuliani -- GOA 2008 Presidential Candidates and the Second Amendment
GOA's summary is absolutely devastating. You cannot be a friend of the Second and still support him. It's simply not possible if you have any honesty at all.
You can have him. Or Hitlery. Doesn't matter. But the menace he poses to the pro-life cause and his status as a genuine enemy of the Second cannot be erased by waving a Fear Of Hitlery banner under our noses.
Based on their past records in public life, Hitlery is a menace to health care. But Rudi will destroy the pro-life movement and the Second Amendment.
Be careful what you cuddle up with. I don't plan on supporting either one because
Hitlery and Rudi are the exact same candidate. Except Rudi may be the more dangerous of the two, judging by their actual performance in office.
To: Soul Seeker
“the answer is to defeat the RINO in the primary. Not talk up how youd be willing to vote for any Republican if it comes to it. that kind of talk just encourages the GOP to believe they can nominate Rudy and experience no fall back. rudys numbers in the past week have been falling precisely because people have drawn a line in the sand saying they would NEVER vote for him, and thats causing the people who think hes so damn electable to reconsider their support of him in the primary.”
Finally some truth comes out. You’re not really having a frank conversation with your peers about a difficult scenario in a general election as much as you are selling the concept out of fear that many of the rest of us just aren’t smart enough. Sounds like the Democrat position that the general population simply isn’t smart enough. I would expect a bit more faith or credit for our intelligence. It may be a difficult scenario in the general election (this is way too early to say but it could be) and I find it shocking how many people here say they would rather see Hillary than vote for a RINO. Amazing. Hopefully this is all moot and the primaries will yield a solid candidate.
To: jazusamo
Good to see you here on a Pro Life thread.
To: BenLurkin
Although the Republican party has strayed far from conservative principals, it is still to be preferred to the Democrat partyHow much longer will it be proffered if the Republican party keeps giving up on core principals?
564
posted on
10/20/2007 10:18:19 PM PDT
by
Between the Lines
(I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
To: Jim Robinson
Pro-Life
565
posted on
10/20/2007 10:22:00 PM PDT
by
TNPatriot
(No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
To: wagglebee; Jim Robinson
The importance of leaders standing up for the unborn is exemplified by the reaction to this thread posted by J.R.
Without our Military, we will be destroyed by the enemy outside our borders. Without our morals and respect for the unborn, we will destroy our children and destroy ourselves from within.
What love can an adult provide a newborn that it cannot provide the unborn?
To: DevSix; wagglebee
as president he would try to get the American taxpayers for them. Show me where he said this? Or has suggested he would try and make abortions federal paid for again. I don't buy this whatsoever.
Copy this link and past it into your browser and watch him say it with his own mouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZe1j4csMq8
567
posted on
10/20/2007 10:32:29 PM PDT
by
Doofer
(Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
To: mike h
Gonna go fishing if that’s the choice .... have a nice day.
To: anymouse
"Well said. Primaries are the place to settle this. Any Republican is better than Hillery. Shame on those who cant figure that out."
Shame on anyone who decides to vote against their conscience and supports an Abortionist, pro-gay rights, and anti 2nd amendment candidate like Rudy!
Shame on anyone who votes for the man who if he became President, would destroy the Republican Party!
To: Jim Robinson
Now stop that. I am not PROUDLY pro-abortion. I wish there were no abortions...BUT I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD. And it will never be outlawed here. I want it hard to get, parental notification, waiting periods, counseling..etc. But totally illegal...no.
570
posted on
10/20/2007 10:40:11 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
We survived 8 years of Slick, didn't we? This without the blogs, Internet, FR, etc.We had a Republican Congress and Muslims who weren't blatantly on the warpath during those 8 years. And what has happened with all these blogs, the internet and your beloved FR? We had a Democrat takeover and a country that has turned FURTHER to the left. The internet doesn't just veer to the right, in case you haven't noticed..
571
posted on
10/20/2007 10:44:01 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: wagglebee
How old are you? Be honest.
572
posted on
10/20/2007 10:45:16 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: Hildy
Which means you’re an abortionist and proud of it. No wonder you support an abortionist for president. Giulani used to start out his speeches with “I am a pro-choice Republican.” Wonder why he doesn’t do that anymore?
573
posted on
10/20/2007 10:46:41 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
To: Lazarus Longer
God help us if Fred is nominated...he is incompetant to run for President...it’s amazing that you don’t see that. No way Romney could win a general election. Have fun watching Hillary Clinton give the State of the Union Address with Bill and Chelsea sitting in the balcony.
574
posted on
10/20/2007 10:47:26 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: SoConPubbie
Shame on anyone who votes for the man who if he became President, would destroy the Republican Party!
***Tootyfruityrudy actually has the potential to destroy the Republican Party even if he is just nominated, let alone if he became president.
575
posted on
10/20/2007 10:49:31 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
To: wagglebee
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity (all of the offspring of a given progenitor), do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
576
posted on
10/20/2007 10:50:50 PM PDT
by
loboinok
(Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
To: Jim Robinson
I'd rather raise grandkids than put a contract out on 'em. I guess that's just one difference between me and Rudy--one of many.
There can be no rights without life itself.
577
posted on
10/20/2007 10:51:30 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: shrinkermd
I find their arguments, explanations and insults just childish.
578
posted on
10/20/2007 10:52:01 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: Hildy
...and Muslims who weren't blatantly on the warpath during those 8 years. What? 1st WTC bombing. Two embassy bombings. Khobar Towers bombing. Kosovar Muslims in Serbia. USS Cole bombing. CIA employee shot down right outside Quantico, VA headquarters. Murrah building in OKC.
579
posted on
10/20/2007 10:52:30 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
To: Hildy
580
posted on
10/20/2007 10:59:03 PM PDT
by
1COUNTER-MORTER-68
(THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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