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Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The DC10’s a running controversy. Some love it, some don’t. It has some value on a day like this when it’s the only fixed wing that can get off the ground. However, in a situation where it’s operating with traditional water-droppers it’s a pain, ‘cause you have to clear them out every time the 10 sets up to make a drop, and it lacks the nimbleness and forgiveness of the smaller aircraft. I have a feeling we’ll see a large ‘thud’ some time in the next season or so.


1,841 posted on 10/22/2007 9:52:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

not sure, probably getting hammered with hits..

HOURLY WEATHER ROUNDUP San Diego National Weather Service
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sgx/display_product.php?sid=SGX&pil=RWR

winds are calm in many spots, still some 10 to 15 mphs around tho..


1,842 posted on 10/22/2007 9:52:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
Witch Fire
Witch Creek Area East of Ramona
San Diego County

This fire has burned 145,000 acres uncontained. 500 homes, 100 commercial properties, and 50 outbuildings have been destroyed.

250 homes, 75 commercial properties and 50 outbuildings have been damaged. 5,000 residences, 1,500 commercial properties, and 300 outbuildings are currently threatened in the communities of San Diego, Poway, Ramona, Escondido, Lakeside, Valley Center, San Marcos, and Rancho Santa Fe. Seven firefighters have been injured on this fire. 625 people are assigned to this fire, of which 274 are CAL FIRE personnel. Wildcat Canyon is closed. Hwy 67 is closed from Poway to Ramona. Witch Fire Information Line (619) 590-3160.  

1,843 posted on 10/22/2007 9:52:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

In recent years the threat risk for tornadoes have been categorized, so I do the following under the circumstances:

Slight risk: Go about my business with a keen eye to the sky and media.

Moderate risk: Cancel all unnecessary activities and stay inside. Monitor the weather.

High risk: Batten down the hatches and prepare the basement for storm mode. Keep the weather on, because something, somewhere is going to get demolished.

Tonight’s threat is minimal to slight. I will sleep upstairs unless the sirens go off.


1,844 posted on 10/22/2007 9:53:06 PM PDT by del4hope
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To: calcowgirl

Very much so.


1,845 posted on 10/22/2007 9:53:11 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (Liberalism: Someone craps their pants, and we all have to wear diapers....)
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To: BurbankKarl


1,846 posted on 10/22/2007 9:53:22 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Must get expensive....(ducking)


1,847 posted on 10/22/2007 9:54:39 PM PDT by del4hope
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To: ArmstedFragg

The DC-10 does make things bit more interesting in the choreography

A big thud

Did you see the DC-10 drop earlier at Lake Arrowhead. Looked like he was too hight and winds scattered the Phoscheck all over the countryside. What drop altitude do they prefer?


1,848 posted on 10/22/2007 9:55:09 PM PDT by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Hey,...Let’s talk about that Limo...I was dreaming about that last night!


1,849 posted on 10/22/2007 9:55:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: del4hope

LOL!!!! :)


1,850 posted on 10/22/2007 9:55:46 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I was dreaming about that last night!

ERNEST! On an open FORUM??? *plop*

1,851 posted on 10/22/2007 9:56:34 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mother of the Bride here, treat me with respect for once, will ya? ;))
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Malibu Canyon/PCH

9:53PM PER CP CAPT - NO ONE IS ALLOWED ON PCH AT ALL NORTH OR EAST OF TOPANGA CANYON - NEW UPDATE NOT EVEN PEPPERDINE STUDENTS NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE W/DOLHPIN STICKERS ON THEIR VEHS - PLS BCAST
9:50PM PER CP - ONLY IF THE PTY IS A STUDENT OF PEPPERDINE UNIV WITH PROPER ID , OTHERWISE, IF PTY LIVES JNO BIG RIG - NOT A STUDENT W/ID - NEGATIVE , NOT ALLOWED THRU AT THIS TIME
9:33PM PER CP - TO R9 - FOR PEPPERDINE STAFF AND STUDENTS WITH ID , THEY CAN PASS THRU CLOSURE AT THE CHECK PT ,, R9 COPIED
9:29PM CLOSURE AT PCH AND KANAN - PEOPLE CANNOT GO SOUTH ON PCH


Problems on the PCH?


1,852 posted on 10/22/2007 9:56:38 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Wow! If you didn’t know what was going on you’d think that picture was photoshopped!


1,853 posted on 10/22/2007 9:56:44 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor and two Marines! Frodo Lives!)
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RED FLAG WARNING
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sto/cafw/rfwwarningsbycwa.php?pil=XXXRFWSGX
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
ISSUED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
405 PM PDT MON OCT 22 2007

...A RED FLAG WARNING IS NOW IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF EXTREME
SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA EXCEPT THE DESERTS THROUGH 3 PM
WEDNESDAY FOR GUSTY NORTHEAST TO EAST WINDS AND LOW HUMIDITIES..

.AN UPPER LEVEL HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED OFF THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA COAST COMBINED WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE
GREAT BASIN WILL CONTINUE TO BRING HOT...DRY...AND STRONG SANTA
ANA CONDITIONS WITH EXPLOSIVE FIRE GROWTH POTENTIAL TO THE COAST THROUGH
TUESDAY...THEN WINDS WILL BEGIN TO SLOWLY DIMINISH TUESDAY NIGHT
THROUGH WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER...THE CONTINUATION OF VERY WARM AND DRY
CONDITIONS HAS PROMPTED THE RED FLAG WARNING TO BE EXTENDED
THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. SLOW COOLING WILL BEGIN THURSDAY. A
WEAK UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IN THE VICINITY OF THE
CALIFORNIA COAST SHOULD BRING SOME ADDITIONAL COOLING AND
MOISTENING FOR THE WEEKEND.


1,854 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: ArmstedFragg

I like those super scoppers that LA County has been using,...they seem to get down close to the ground also...


1,855 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The SuperScoopers are always a controversy too...but they are always there! I heard a great argument with the CDF air boss over the Burbank Fire a couple year back. Classic.

1,856 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Global Warming alarmists are *so happy*.....sickening...


1,857 posted on 10/22/2007 9:57:55 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: yield 2 the right

*That is huge number for the that part of the nation *

We have 3 million+ in San Diego County.
There was also a huge amount evacuated in the 2003 fires.

Having so many fires in various areas of the County drives up the amount of people to evac.


1,858 posted on 10/22/2007 9:58:21 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Whoops....!


1,859 posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Red Flag all the way through to Wednesday?

OMG.......


1,860 posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:40 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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