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The Conservative Case For -- And Against -- Mike Huckabee
Right Wing News ^ | October 24, 2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 10/24/2007 11:25:36 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Mike Huckabee seems to be picking up a little bit of steam of late. He won the onsite Values Voter poll almost 5 to 1 over his nearest competitor, Chuck Norris endorsed him, and he raised $325,000 over the last 6 days, which is pretty doggone good for a guy who only raised a million in the last quarter.

Does that mean Huckabee is a top tier contender? Given his poll numbers and lack of fund raising in the first three quarters, not quite, but still, he does have an outside chance to win the nomination. If he could pull out a surprise victory in Iowa, which isn't out of the question, Huckabee might actually be able to generate enough momentum and money to go on to victory.

That being said, people don't seem to know much about Mike Huckabee beyond the fact that he's a governor from Arkansas and is very charismatic.

So, with that in mind, I want to fill in a few blank spots for people, both positive and negative, about Mike Huckabee.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: 2008; arkansas; huckabee; immigration
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1 posted on 10/24/2007 11:25:37 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: fieldmarshaldj; LdSentinal; Savage Beast; Petronski; Clemenza; BlackElk; Kuksool; ...
IMHO, some powerful people in the Republican establishment are pushing the eventual GOP nominee to choose Huckabee as Vice Presidential nominee. Obviously they think that Huckabee would bring strength to the ticket.
2 posted on 10/24/2007 11:30:40 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Clintonfatigued

bttt


3 posted on 10/24/2007 11:31:23 AM PDT by dano1
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To: Clintonfatigued

The best case for - Huckabee is not Giuliani.


4 posted on 10/24/2007 11:33:39 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Huckabee won’t be the VP nominee. The VP nominee should be someone who has been a U.S. rep., since that usually worked, in the past 55 years. Five of the last six GOP VP’s were congressmen. Those five were Dick Cheney, Dan Quayle, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, and Richard Nixon. The exception was Spiro Agnew.

Huckabee should be the presidential nominee, and his running-mate should be Bob Beauprez.


5 posted on 10/24/2007 11:34:31 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Clintonfatigued

6 posted on 10/24/2007 11:37:40 AM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Eric Blair 2084
Tax and Spend Huckster

"By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute."

7 posted on 10/24/2007 11:43:14 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: PhilCollins

NO TAX AND SPEND HUCKSTER SHOULD BE OUR NOMINEE.

“By the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes, and 103% higher cigarette taxes according to Americans for Tax Reform (01/07/07), garnering a lifetime grade of D from the free-market Cato Institute.”


8 posted on 10/24/2007 11:44:08 AM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: PhilCollins; Eric Blair 2084; pissant; Paperdoll; Travis McGee; Calpernia
Huckabee should be the presidential nominee,

Why?

9 posted on 10/24/2007 11:44:46 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: PhilCollins
The VP nominee should be someone who has been a U.S. rep., since that usually worked, in the past 55 years.

If the nominee is a senator, the chemistry changes and a domestically oriented governor might be a good balance for a senator.
In this race a lot of the conventional wisdom will not apply.
10 posted on 10/24/2007 11:47:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

” “I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...,” Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

“Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter. He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state’s capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.

“Your gathering is so very significant for our state,” Huckabee said. “We are delighted to have you......”

He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, “I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before.”

Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up “those who are racist and bigots.”

He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn’t allow non-citizens to vote because it would “send the message that, essentially, ‘If you don’t look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don’t want you.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1915118/posts


11 posted on 10/24/2007 11:50:00 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Huckabee is a former Southern Baptist minister who was governor of Arkansas from 1996 to 2007.

FORMER Southern Baptist minister? What did he do to get defrocked?

Once a priest, always a priest. Unless you do something really bad, and get defrocked.

12 posted on 10/24/2007 11:55:40 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: fireforeffect

Maybe going into politics was enough. Huckabee is like GW. At first glance a conservative, but pull back that onion a little and he only looks conservative compared to Rudy.


13 posted on 10/24/2007 11:58:40 AM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: AuntB

Huckabee could well be Clinton’s VP. Why, indeed, would conservative Republicans want him as president?

He proselytizes Hunter, misrepresents his record as Governor of Arkansas nearly as often as Mitt misrepresents his of Massachusetts.

Huck is, as I’ve said before, very clever with words - listener beware! - and as slippery as a greased pig. No way is this man qualified to be president.


14 posted on 10/24/2007 12:03:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: fireforeffect
FORMER Southern Baptist minister? What did he do to get defrocked? Once a priest, always a priest. Unless you do something really bad, and get defrocked.

No, he willingly and voluntarily gave up God's calling as a Baptist Pastor to persue the siren's song of politics calling. No kidding. That ought to tell one alot about him right there.

15 posted on 10/24/2007 12:03:33 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: AuntB

Woo Woo! Tyson, old BJ Clinton’s best buddy?


16 posted on 10/24/2007 12:04:37 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: AuntB
"He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, “I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before.” "

OK, that does it for me. Nothing scares me more than a religious fanatic.

17 posted on 10/24/2007 12:04:54 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Crop-circles and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: All
For anyone wanting to know more about the Huckster, Mike Huckabee, and his past history as governor, please see my profile page for a list of pertinent articles. Huck speaks like a conservative, but his actions say he's not.

Anyone wanting on the STOP THE HUCKSTER ping list please let me know.

18 posted on 10/24/2007 12:06:57 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: OB1kNOb; fireforeffect

Another actor seeking a new venue with a larger audience!


19 posted on 10/24/2007 12:07:56 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll; AuntB
This tells me all I need to know about him.

Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005

By Wesley Brown Arkansas News Bureau

LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.

"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.

Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.

About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.

Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.

"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.

He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.

"Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you (criminal invader illegal aliens)"

20 posted on 10/24/2007 12:08:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Wonder how much Tyson is paying him to insure cheap feather pluckers!


21 posted on 10/24/2007 12:09:54 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll

Mucho dinero, seguro.


22 posted on 10/24/2007 12:11:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: matthew fuller

Please don’t judge Bible believers by a man who uses our precious Lord and Savior to get his sick point across.


23 posted on 10/24/2007 12:13:59 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
No. He's not electable.

I can't imagine where they get the idea he is. The Xlintons would eat him alive.
24 posted on 10/24/2007 12:14:22 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Paperdoll

Both tight with Tyson like two Hope Arkansas peas in a pod!

25 posted on 10/24/2007 12:15:07 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: OB1kNOb

I’ve been a one woman Tyson boycotter for years now! :)


26 posted on 10/24/2007 12:18:21 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Mike Huckabee quote: "Congress was spending money like John Edwards in a beauty shop."
27 posted on 10/24/2007 12:20:56 PM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: WOSG

Huckabee’s literature states that he’s a fiscal conservative. It states:
“* Passed Arkansas’s first-broad-based tax cut package and cut over 90 additional taxes — reducing taxes by almost $380 million for the people of Arkansas.
* Balanced the Arkansas state budget five times, eliminated the capitol gains tax for the sale of a home, and indexed the state income tax to inflation to keep people from being forced into higher tax brackets.
* Left office with a surplus of more than $800 million.”


28 posted on 10/24/2007 12:25:34 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

I’ll take the Club for Growth’s scathing reports and Cato Institute’s “D grade” as a more objective view than Huckster’s own self-promoting comments.

This ... “Balanced the Arkansas state budget five times, eliminated the capitol gains tax for the sale of a home, and indexed the state income tax to inflation to keep people from being forced into higher tax brackets.”

... is NOT an accomplishment.

Abolishing the state income tax entirely would have been an accomplishment!


29 posted on 10/24/2007 12:29:16 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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To: PhilCollins
What the Huckster's literature won't say is how he told Arkansans he would immediately repeal the state income tax surcharge of 3% added to our income tax as soon as the coffers went from a deficit to surplus and how when it did, he kept the surcharge in place for 2-3 years afterwards.

Nor will it mention that he would never consider removing state sales tax from food and meds, but even his liberal democratic successor agreed to and has done so.

Nor will it mention all the convicted murderers and rapists (think Wayne Dumond) that he pardoned while in office.

I call his literature one-sided BS. I know. I lived under his sorry leadership.

30 posted on 10/24/2007 12:32:32 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree that, if the presidential nominee is a senator, a governor would balance the ticket. However, the nominee should be Huckabee. The last republican nominee who had been a senator was Dole, and he received 159 electoral votes and 41% of the popular vote. Two of the last three republican presidents were governors, and Huckabee was a governor longer than Bush & Romney, combined.

Huckabee states, on his site, www.mikehuckabee.com, that he’s pro-fairtax, anti-illegal alien, pro-life, pro-gun rights, and anti-gay marriage.


31 posted on 10/24/2007 12:32:41 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; spectre
Huckabee states, on his site, www.mikehuckabee.com, that he’s pro-fairtax, anti-illegal alien, pro-life, pro-gun rights, and anti-gay marriage.

Yes, that's what he states and THAT is the problem. It's not true. Read the thread. Hucky speaks with forked tongue.

32 posted on 10/24/2007 12:57:16 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: PhilCollins
Huckabee should be the presidential nominee, and his running-mate should be Bob Beauprez.


33 posted on 10/24/2007 1:30:46 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: AuntB

I read the thread. Huckabee knows his views better than anyone else knows them.


34 posted on 10/24/2007 1:32:00 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: ex-snook
The GOP is just dumb enough to think the Huckster can take some of the edge off of Giuliani and make him the VP nominee. All they would do is piss off everyone in the party. SoCons will hate Giuliani and libertarians will hate Huckabee...

Baby Killer/Nanny Stater '08! Get excited!!! Send in those donations, write letters, blog, make the phone calls. Yippeee. Somebody f'ing shoot me please.

This is what we are heading for....


35 posted on 10/24/2007 1:36:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: PhilCollins
I read the thread. Huckabee knows his views better than anyone else knows them.

Not even if a life-long native Arkansan who's experienced and suffered the Huckster's non-conservative governorship 1st hand and who's hobnobbed with him in social events and whose wife knew him from college days, told you otherwise, nor if I provide a list of Mike's past political actions for one to read and consider? You're just going to decide about him based soley on what this politician says?

36 posted on 10/24/2007 1:39:59 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: OB1kNOb

No, I didn’t decide to support him solely on what he says. I have a conservative friend who lives near Fort Smith. I haven’t heard any complaints about Huckabee from that friend of mine.


37 posted on 10/24/2007 2:24:32 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; Eric Blair 2084; OB1kNOb; All

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/23/1-out-of-56-is-not-most/

At the GOP debate the other night, Mike Huckabee made an odd claim.

“When our founding fathers put their signatures on the Declaration of Independence, those 56 brave people, most of whom, by the way, were clergymen, they said that we have certain inalienable rights given to us by our creator.”

“Most” of the signers were clergy? Is that true? Actually, no.

Only one of the 56 was an active clergyman, and that was John Witherspoon. Witherspoon was a Presbyterian minister and president of the College of New Jersey (now Princeton University).

A few more of the signers were former clergymen, though it’s a little unclear just how many…. We’d like to give Huckabee every benefit of the doubt, but even if you consider former clergymen among the signers the best you could come up with is four. Out of 56. That’s not “most,” that’s Pants-on-Fire wrong.

It’s a common problem at the Republican debates — why let facts get in the way of a perfectly good soundbite?


38 posted on 10/24/2007 2:47:44 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: PhilCollins; AuntB

AuntB explained it very well.

Come on, Phil, I know you have grammy award winning records, but what are you going to do when faced with the truth.

Answer her.


39 posted on 10/24/2007 3:02:49 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: AuntB
>> At the GOP debate the other night, Mike Huckabee made an odd claim. “When our founding fathers put their signatures on the Declaration of Independence, those 56 brave people, most of whom, by the way, were clergymen, they said that we have certain inalienable rights given to us by our creator.” “Most” of the signers were clergy? Is that true? Actually, no. Only one of the 56 was an active clergyman, and that was John Witherspoon. Witherspoon was a Presbyterian minister and president of the College of New Jersey (now Princeton University). A few more of the signers were former clergymen, though it’s a little unclear just how many…. We’d like to give Huckabee every benefit of the doubt, but even if you consider former clergymen among the signers the best you could come up with is four. Out of 56. That’s not “most,” that’s Pants-on-Fire wrong. <<

Honestly, who cares if he flubbed one statistic? Ann Coulter is extremely sloppy with her research and gets her "facts" wrong on numerous occasions -- claimed Canada supported us in Vietnam (the exact opposite happened) and claimed that no RAT President ever appointed a stealth conservative (wrong, JFK appointee Byron White was considered a liberal and then became center-right AFTER he joined he court). She still has plenty of worshipers on FR despite her credibility being shot.

40 posted on 10/24/2007 3:53:07 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors win. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it)
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To: BillyBoy
Honestly, who cares if he flubbed one statistic?

I don't. Anyone is entitled to a mistake. It's the cumulative effect of his false statements and flip flops. The quote you sited wasn't from Ann Coulter, BTW, so I don't know why you're dissing her. Kill the messenger just in case? lol

41 posted on 10/24/2007 4:09:39 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: BillyBoy; AuntB

Maybe BillyBoy can answer our question AuntB:

Mike Huckabee is a conservative because:

Please feel free to fill in the blanks, we are all listening. I’ll even give you a head start...

1. He is pro life
2. He is pro 2nd Amendment

The rest is up to you. Let’s hear it. There are dozens of issues on the conservative GOP platform. Pick some. Any.


42 posted on 10/24/2007 4:34:46 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Paperdoll

No more slippery pigs from Arkansas!


43 posted on 10/24/2007 4:38:31 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: OB1kNOb

The “New Man From Hope” was enough for me to forget about him!


44 posted on 10/24/2007 4:40:39 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Like we’re not pissed already?

No more Clinton clones!


45 posted on 10/24/2007 4:42:54 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: Califreak

So are you on the we wish Mike well and we’ll see you at your retirement party ping list or not?


46 posted on 10/24/2007 4:53:35 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Huckabee gets those 2 issues right but he is wrong on lots else.


47 posted on 10/24/2007 4:55:42 PM PDT by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No, but feel free to add me if you like. : )


48 posted on 10/24/2007 4:57:36 PM PDT by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: darkangel82

Bingo!


49 posted on 10/24/2007 4:58:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Califreak

We’re not interested in quantity. We are interested in quality.

Folks who can explain to fellow FReepers who are fiscal conservatives, pro-border and anti nanny state why Huckabee is a train wreck.


50 posted on 10/24/2007 5:01:12 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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