[SergeiRachmaninov]

I think the bias against French engineering involves their cars.

Yea...as I wrote my celebration of French engineering I was remembering those old Fiats and Renaults of the late 50s, early 60s. They seemed more like something one would expect from the East Germans.

I would guess that it was socialism, rather than engineering that was responsible for that kind of junk. I think the high-speed TGV trains, the nuclear infrastructure, and some of the breathtaking bridges are more representative of the true spirit of French engineering. (Of course, they made a complete mess of public access to the Internet. That, too, I suppose was "statism." They were quick to impose a public solution (their "Minitel" terminals) that casued them first to leap ahead, but then fall far behind, in Internet access.)

[TalBlack]

I think the high-speed TGV trains, the nuclear infrastructure, and some of the breathtaking bridges are more representative of the true spirit of French engineering.
Thje Exocet did a pretty good job of making them look good during the Malvinas contretemps

[TalBlack]

I think the high-speed TGV trains, the nuclear infrastructure, and some of the breathtaking bridges are more representative of the true spirit of French engineering.
Thje Exocet did a pretty good job of making them look good during the Malvinas contretemps

[snugs]

FIAT surely is Italian