Posted on 10/29/2007 11:48:25 AM PDT by neverdem
There is a slippery slope, AND IT BEGINS IN NEW YORK!
It's never a very comforting thought when we realize we only have the rights the majority of nine politically appointed lawyers on the Supreme Court agree we have.
I’m with that!
“BATFE? Sounds like a concept for a convenience store”
I have been sent this ‘soliciation’ before and questioned whether the bill is actually called “Veterans Disarmament Act”... would imagine it is not the ‘official title’ and if one were to call a Pols office and inquire about the VDA many could say there was no such bill etc....
NOT defending ‘them’, just making an observation
I am all for privatizing the BATFE with this new mission. Not that I think those bureaucrats stand a snowballs chance of competing in the private sector.
“Are senate offices lying to you”?
Get real man. I’m not sure I remember when a senator or their office aren’t lying.
Stealing and lying is a prerequisite for a senate office.
The further you go up the senate power grid the greater a lying turd you become.
Let’s see, the shoot down of the airliner over Long Island.
The Branch Davidians in Waco, The Clintons and their Chi-Com contacts?
All allowed by senators lying.
If the govt. or their people tell ya the sun sets in the west ya had better check it before believing it.
NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.2640.RFS]
GOA is using dramatic rhetoric to get some attention because of veterans already denied due to be diagnosed with PTSD. I have nothing against the NRA except they are wrong on this issue. Even Ted Nugent who is on their Board of Directors agrees. Check the link in comment# 19.
PTSD must be looked at closely. I believe that more information is coming out that the guy in Bahraine that shot those two girls and himself may have been PTSD so I believe that although I want everyone to own a gun let’s make sure that people are safe as well.
Liberal anti-gun reasoning: No one needs a gun because some nut case might go crazy and shoot people!
Liberal anti-gun reasoning: No one needs a gun because some nut case might go crazy and shoot people!
No they're not.
There is no bill to take guns away from veterans.
No again. BUT... There is a bill that is vague enough that regulators (especially the BATFE kind) can at their whim add huge groups of individuals to the NICS list. While there is no language that specifically says a vet diagnosed with PTSD can't own a firearm, there is language that could indeed be used by the BATFE to justify a future interpretation that removes this right from veterans. Or for that matter anyone who has had such a finding.
This kind of regulatory expansion of law has happened before and it will happen again. I don't wish to knowingly give them the tools to do it.
The NRA is wrong here. That isn't a bash, just a statement of fact as I see it. Instead of siding with the opponents of our rights, the NRA should be pointing out (loudly, forcefully and constantly) that the Virginia Tech shootings were enabled and enhanced by the policies of the administrators in fighting against and preventing of CCW on campus. They were guilty of disarming students, they bragged about it, and the NRA has allowed them to quietly walk away from their complicity.
Of course not, it's the "NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007". But Congress rarely names an act something that actually describes what it does with any degree of accuracy. Often the title will describe some, usually minor, part of the bill/law, but not anything that would tend overload their email in boxes, fax machines and telephone lines.
They are power hungry, not stupid... well some of 'em are pretty dumb, but their staffers usually aren't.
If you think this one is bad. Take a look at Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007. wherein the Attorney General at her complete discretion could deny someone the right to purchase firearms (or explosives). She could even withhold from that individual the reasons for such denial. ( I use the feminine pronoun for what should be obvious historical reasons)
New Book: How Shyness Became a Mental Illness
"... The number of mental disorders that children and adults in the general population might exhibit leaped from 180 in 1968 to more than 350 in 1994,” notes Lane, Northwestern's Herman and Beulah Pearce Miller Research Professor. In a book that calls in doubt the facade of objective research behind psychiatry's revolution, Lane questions the rationale for the changes, and whether all of them were necessary and suitably precise...
In examining the American Psychiatric Association archives, Lane -- who argues that psychiatry is using drugs with poor track records to treat growing numbers of normal human emotions -- even came across a proposal to establish “chronic complaint disorder,” in which people moan about the weather, taxes or the previous night's racetrack results.
“It might be funny,” he says, save for the fact that the DSM's next edition, due to be completed in 2012, is likely to establish new categories for apathy, compulsive buying, Internet addiction, binge-eating and compulsive sexual behavior. Don't look for road rage, however. It's already in the DSM, under intermittent explosive disorder."
How long before they twist the desire to own firearms into a category in the DSM?
Ping to #38
ATF is an organization which is not needed.
It should be disbanded and its rank and file absorbed into the F.B.I. and local law-enforcement where they belong.
We don’t need a national police force, ESPECIALLY one which can create its own “laws”.
The ATF is the closest thing America has to Brownshirts.
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