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To: Kevmo; Jim Robinson

“Maybe my depiction of them is more apt. They’re UIN republicans — they’d vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what it means to us.”

That does describe one segment, but I think the Republican Party is more center-oriented than we conservatives want to believe.

Both parties have this fight for control taking place. And it seems both bases are losing to the moderate factions in each party. Not that Hillary is a moderate, but she has not left any room on her right for a Dem candidate. The more openly left a Dem candidate, the lower his poll numbers. And if you put together the national poll numbers for Rudy, Romney and McCain, you have a very high majority of the Republican party favoring them. I’m not saying I like it, just being realistic about where the Republican party is today. It’s a center-right party at best, not a conservative party as defined by Jim Robinson, for example. Unless the polls are all wrong, of course. That’s why I say our problem isn’t RINOS, it’s CINOS.


49 posted on 10/29/2007 9:19:13 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Unless the polls are all wrong, of course. That’s why I say our problem isn’t RINOS, it’s CINOS.
***The problem with calling them CINOs is that they’ll swear up & down that they’re conservative. But they stop short at calling themselves socons — social conservatives. I know they don’t like being called solibs.
So the tension is between socons and wannabe conservatives.

The best name is like the socon one, where each side accepts it. We don’t consider them to be conservatives, and they do. So we need a name they’ll admit to — maybe pragmacons. Principled socons vs. compromising pragmacons.


57 posted on 10/29/2007 9:40:05 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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