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To: broncobilly; colorcountry
And how are we going to deal with the fact that all Catholics label Baptists as an apostates, and all Baptists label Mormons as an apostates, and all Jewish faithful label all Christians as of an apostate faith

Not so. ColorCountry refers to herself as a "born-again" Mormon. I don't refer to her as an "apostate." I'm sure I don't agree with her on everything; that doesn't mean that I issue some blanket statement on her (like the LDS "scripture" does) calling her an "apostate."

Show me where Catholics label Baptists as apostates. (I've worked and rubbed shoulders with plenty of Catholics; none have ever considered Protestants as "apostates"). [Straw man on your part]

...all Jewish faithful label all Christians as of an apostate faith.

Technically, an "apostate" is one who has left the faith. So if Jewish faithful never considered Christians to be of of the faith to begin with, then, no, they don't label us as such. [How many strikes, again, does it take to strike out?]

Additionally, you said ALL Jewish faithful. There, you are doubly wrong, for thousands of Messianic Jews are among those "Jewish faithful"--and they don't consider us as "apostates," either. (If you want a precise answer, just contact Jews for Jesus)

So when can we expect just one time for you to admit that you are wrong?

Let’s face it. If anyone thinks they are right, they automatically think others are wrong. BIG DEAL.

We all have certain "blinders" on. That doesn't mean that just because the church filter I see through = all other church filters are wrong. If we agree on the essentials, then the rest is secondary. (Just like if I agree on the essentials with my spouse, then the rest is secondary. Unity does not = Unanimity)

Face it, there are some "secondary" things where folks can agree to disagree. (If the two believe contradictory things, both can't be right and in fact, both may be wrong).

Finally, LDS "scripture" takes blanket condemnation of all non-members to the nth degree. For example, I can believe that LDS are "right" on some things...losing your salvation, for example. I don't label every creed they adhere to as "an abomination before the Lord." Nor do I call all their "professors as corrupt."

Yet, when you reverse this, LDS cannot say the same thing.

64 posted on 10/30/2007 2:29:41 PM PDT by Colofornian (And yet LDS posters are quick to hurl 'bigot' invectives when they in fact pre-judge ALL non-members)
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To: Colofornian
You are choosing to pick my statement apart (because of defects) and not deal adequately with my main point.
Catholicism officially considers Protestantism apostates. Personally Catholics are tolerant and respectful and are easy to have good relations with.
The first Christians were Jewish and were considered apostates. Jewish people today are also, I find, tolerant and respectful.
Likewise, Mormons have that statement in their history about the Creeds being an abomination. However, Mormons don’t go around telling people their creeds are an abomination. As a matter of fact, few people even care about creeds anymore.
There is an exception, however. Many Christians believe that because Mormons do not agree with the Nicene Creed they are so apostate they are not even Christians. They call them a cult.
So in actual practice, today Mormons are on the receiving end of most of the label accusing.
77 posted on 10/30/2007 3:29:58 PM PDT by broncobilly
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