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BREAKING: Judge halts state's morning-after pill rules (drug stores CAN opt out)
The Associated Press (Via The News Tribune of Tacoma WA) ^ | 11/8/07

Posted on 11/08/2007 5:33:25 PM PST by llevrok

ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: November 8th, 2007 01:07 PM

A federal judge has suspended Washington’s requirement that pharmacists sell “morning-after” birth control pills. The injunction says pharmacists can refuse to sell the morning-after pill, referring a customer instead to a nearby source.

It’s part of a lawsuit by two pharmacists and a drugstore owner, who claim in a lawsuit that the state’s birth-control sales rules violated their civil rights.

The morning-after pill, sold as “Plan B,” can dramatically lower the risk of pregnancy if taken within 72 hours of unprotected sex. Some critics consider the pill tantamount to abortion, although it has no effect on women who are pregnant.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: abortion; morningafter; pharmacy; planb; ruling; spartansixdelta
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To: org.whodat
Wrong, most freepers believe that if the owner wants to sell the drugs and his employees don't then the employee needs to look for a job somewhere else.

But that is never the situation that brings up the discussion. These discussion are always started when a state steps in and tries to force it down the throats of businesses and pharmacists.

21 posted on 11/08/2007 6:30:25 PM PST by Always Right
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To: edsheppa
Federalism. Why is this federal judge sticking his nose in WA’s affairs?

Because the states are infringing on individual rights.

22 posted on 11/08/2007 6:33:07 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Because the states are infringing on individual rights.

You mean like the right to life which the HLA would ensure but Thompson opposes on a federalism basis? Are you seriously suggesting that Thompson thinks being able to pick and choose which drugs you sell is a more important right than not being snuffed out in your mother's womb because you're considered inconvenient? And not only that, but also it's so much more important that it overrides a preference for federalism? Well, maybe, but I hope he doesn't have such inverted values.

23 posted on 11/08/2007 6:47:11 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: edsheppa

I’d have to read the briefs, but I believe the complaint alleges violations of civil rights laws.

Do you expect any candidate for POTUS this year to run opposing civil rights laws?


24 posted on 11/08/2007 6:54:02 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: Petronski
Do you expect any candidate for POTUS this year to run opposing civil rights laws?

Well, Thompson is opposed to a prospective civil rights law, name the HLA. And his opposition is not based on some flaw in the HLA itself. One of the reasons he's advanced is that, on federalism grounds, the decision about how to regulate abortion should be left to the states. It seems improbable to me that Thompson would consider picking and choosing what drugs you sell is a more important right than not being killed for the supposed lifestyle convenience of your mother. If federalism precludes the latter from being consideration as a national matter, certainly it does the former.

25 posted on 11/08/2007 7:50:09 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: llevrok; time4good; Mike32; genxer; PatriotEdition; Simul iustus et peccator; Disgusted in Texas; ..

Ping.


26 posted on 11/08/2007 7:51:14 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: edsheppa
Well, Thompson is opposed to a prospective civil rights law . . .

Not the same, for too many reasons to count. But here's the head of National Right to Life:

“You would have to change 20 to 25 votes in the Senate,” says Osteen. “You’d have to replace 20 to 25 senators to pass an amendment even there. It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress [and] three-fourths of the states to ratify [an amendment to the Constitutional], so it’s not practical to think that there would be a human life amendment passing Congress during the next presidential term — and of course, the president doesn’t have a vote.

27 posted on 11/08/2007 8:01:10 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: Always Right; llevrok

No, he was saying that the right of the business owner to decide what to sell was a greater right than any obligation to sell legal medication.

I agree. I don’t oppose plan B (I don’t support it either), but since there’s an argument over it I support individual choice in whether to provide it as a product.

If a woman feels it necessary, she can buy a supply to keep on hand, or find a pharmacy that doesn’t object.


28 posted on 11/08/2007 9:47:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: llevrok

Good for Washington...but I was so hoping this was happening in Illinois. We need somebody to override outr governor’s fascism on this issue.


29 posted on 11/08/2007 10:09:29 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: edsheppa
Why is this federal judge sticking his nose in WA’s affairs?

Since when does a state get to violate constitutional rights?

30 posted on 11/08/2007 10:12:27 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: edsheppa

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Because it violates the US Constitution.

Any more questions?


31 posted on 11/08/2007 10:15:15 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: llevrok
This is one for the little guy and personal rights.<

Yes it is!

But I suspect that the State will rewrite it's laws regarding what pharmacies are required by law to do, and this issue will return. Once the regulatory law says they all must carry and sell all legal drugs, the issue becomes moot.

They beat this one because the law did not say that.

So this is not yet over...The fight is only delayed.

32 posted on 11/08/2007 10:16:31 PM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: qam1
I doubt any freeper even the pro-choice ones feel that way. If an owner of a business doesn’t want to sell distribute this drug at their private business than I think you will have a hard time finding a freeper who feels the government should force them (Well, maybe many of the liberal trolls who infest the smoking/nanny state threads but it’s hard to call them real freepers)

No, they're out there and if they're trolls, they're deep cover trolls. There are Freepers who believe that a pharmacist has a duty to fill a script that overrides his conscientious objection and his right to control inventory.

Never underestimate the compromises people--even conservatives--will make in their principles in order to preserve sexual convenience.

33 posted on 11/08/2007 10:18:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: org.whodat
Wrong, most freepers believe that if the owner wants to sell the drugs and his employees don't then the employee needs to look for a job somewhere else. I have not seen one of them post that it was up to the government to order a private company to do spit.

Then you need to get your monitor fixed. I've had several freepers tell me that pharamcists should fill the script, period, and they weren't talking about employees, they were talking about all pharmacists, including owners. They even kept it up after I posted the pharmacists's oath, IIRC.

34 posted on 11/08/2007 10:24:46 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: edsheppa
I expect Senator Thompson won’t like this ruling.

I expect that you will be referred to as an ignoramus.

35 posted on 11/08/2007 10:30:57 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wagglebee; cpforlife.org
Great news ping!

The injunction says pharmacists can refuse to sell the morning-after pill, referring a customer instead to a nearby source.

36 posted on 11/08/2007 10:31:18 PM PST by jan in Colorado (“we need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party” -- Duncan Hunter June 5,2007)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

37 posted on 11/08/2007 10:44:45 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Mr. Silverback

It’s a double edged sword though.

What if a lady who has four children already goes to the pharmacy to get a prescription for a fertility enhancing drug and the pharmacist thinks the world is already overpopulated and won’t give it to her?

There’s a gazillion reasons and personal beliefs that might make somebody refuse to give a prescription.


38 posted on 11/08/2007 10:49:57 PM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: llevrok

WOW. I’ve lived in WA since 1985, and have never once witnessed a (publicized) victory for the life side. Will it stand?


39 posted on 11/08/2007 11:09:57 PM PST by Lexinom (Your hopes and dreams rest on your right to life. GoHunter08.com)
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To: llevrok; Always Right

Exactly. I’d be grossly surprised that we have many here on FR who would advocate forcing a private business to sell something they don’t want to.


40 posted on 11/08/2007 11:18:00 PM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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