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Venezuelans scramble for food amid oil opulence
Reuters via ABC News ^ | Nov 11, 2007 | Brian Ellsworth

Posted on 11/11/2007 9:54:01 PM PST by james500

Venezuelan construction worker Gustavo Arteaga has no trouble finding jobs in this OPEC nation's booming economy, but on a recent Monday morning he skipped work as part of a more complicated search -- for milk.

The 37-year-old father-of-two has for months scrambled to find basic products like cooking oil, beef and milk, despite leftist President Hugo Chavez's social program that promises to provide low-cost groceries to the majority poor.

"It takes a miracle to find milk," said Arteaga, who spent two hours in line outside a store in the poor Caracas neighborhood of Eucaliptus. "Don't you see I'm here slaving away to see if I can get even one or two of those (containers)?"

Venezuelan consumers are increasingly facing periodic shortages of basic food products as the economy shows signs of overheating amid record revenues from an oil boom.

The shortages have increased skepticism of Chavez's economic policies and provided a political backdrop to campaigning this month for a referendum on a new constitution that he says is needed to make Venezuela a socialist state.

Businesses say price controls on staple foods are so low they discourage investment and force stores to sell at a loss.

The government says the problem is caused by growing demand by poor citizens who benefit from social programs, exaggerated media hype and food hoarding by unscrupulous businesses.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; hunger; oil; venezuela
"Chavez remains widely popular after winning a landslide re-election last year and pollsters say he will win approval in a December referendum for a constitutional overhaul that will let him run for re-election indefinitely."
1 posted on 11/11/2007 9:54:02 PM PST by james500
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To: james500
...despite leftist President Hugo Chavez's social program ...Those morons at ABC would think it was in spite of the programs. Just about anybody here on this forum could see this coming.
2 posted on 11/11/2007 9:58:13 PM PST by Nateman (A Clinton who is not even good at lying?)
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To: james500
"I like everything the president is doing, he's helping poor people," said Maria Pena, 48, a homemaker waiting in line for milk. "The only thing I do not like is waiting in line."

She had better get use to waiting if Chavez is in charge. Just ask the Cubans.

3 posted on 11/11/2007 9:58:56 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: james500

It depends upon what your definition of voting is, is.
or
It depends upon what your definition of democracy is, is.


4 posted on 11/11/2007 9:59:52 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: james500

And when the oil revenue dries up for whatever reason, it will be even more difficult to find basic foodstuffs. Yet the people voted for him (in a probably slanted but still probably accurate election). You get what you vote for, and this is just the start.


5 posted on 11/11/2007 10:00:17 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: Nateman

...and blind hogs too!


6 posted on 11/11/2007 10:00:32 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: james500

Only socialism/liberalism could cause food shortages in such a food growing utopia like Venezuela. Then again, look at the starving-to-death former bread basket of Africa, Zimbabwe.


7 posted on 11/11/2007 10:00:35 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: james500
" ...that will let him run for re-election indefinitely."

sounds like another regime i remember from my youth.

8 posted on 11/11/2007 10:06:01 PM PST by robomatik
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To: james500
I dunno. Fat pig Chavez has plenty to eat:


9 posted on 11/11/2007 10:09:42 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: james500

such stupid people


10 posted on 11/11/2007 10:15:54 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: james500

I have zero sympathy for Venezuelans. The fools voted for this thug and continue to vote for him, so they get what they deserve. It appears that the Venezuelans who understand capitalism are coming to Florida, where their talent and initiative are welcome.


11 posted on 11/11/2007 10:17:49 PM PST by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: james500

When you vote for a commie, you starve under communism. The idiots who support Hillary Clinton should pay close attention.


12 posted on 11/11/2007 10:24:27 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: james500

Chavez, bringing the peace and prosperity of the old Soviet Union to his people. I hope they stock up on toilet paper. Things could get tough down there.

Picking up an old 52 Chevy might be a good idea too. I understand from Fidel, they last a long time.

LMAO

Venezuelans, please wake up.


13 posted on 11/11/2007 10:25:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mrs Crinton have Pay Feava. There she go now. "Ah Hsu Ahhh Hsu Ah Hsu!" Crintons worth every penny.)
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To: james500

Dude, call Sean Penn and tell him to stop off and grab a gallon of milk the next time he comes down.


14 posted on 11/11/2007 10:28:58 PM PST by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: james500
Another reporter for Chavez!!!

I find the follwing two statements extremely funny:

Supermarket shelves remain stocked with aged whiskey and imported wine, but for up to 25 percent of staple food products this year supplies have been irregular, according to public opinion and economic research group Datanalisis.

Now the combination of the controls and unprecedented consumer spending ...struggling to find ingredients it needs.

So the shelves remain "stocked with aged whiskey and imported wine". I guess all of the "unprecedented prosperity" goes to purchasing staples.

Do these people even realize what idiots they sound like?

15 posted on 11/11/2007 10:30:18 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: james500
Typical socialist mentality; “If it doesn’t work, do more of it”, also; “I can’t be wrong because I’m sooo smart, someone is obviously trying to prevent me from succeeding and they need to be dealt with!”

Gee, sounds like the thinking in 99.99% of American colleges; let me call then “institutions of lower learning”.

This type of thinking is totally true at the Pennsylvania State University (PSU) - the liberal school of liberal schools; don’t think anything but socialist thoughts there or they will silence you on way or the other!

16 posted on 11/11/2007 10:40:38 PM PST by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: lawnguy

Good one. It’s funny because it’s true.


17 posted on 11/11/2007 10:45:20 PM PST by james500
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To: james500

“Venezuelan consumers are increasingly facing periodic shortages of basic food products as the economy shows signs of overheating amid record revenues from an oil boom.”

This is what happens when 60% of your population is dirt poor.

The government will just buy your vote. I bet for the truly poor their life’s are much better than before.

Before Chavez (I spit on you) , all the oil money was leaving the country now at least some of it goes to the people.

They just traded freedom for food but for many that is a better deal than what they had.


18 posted on 11/11/2007 11:24:37 PM PST by Goldwater and Gingrich
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To: james500
Venezuela...the next Zimbabwe.

I am waiting for Mr. Chavez to say, "Let them drink oil!"

19 posted on 11/11/2007 11:34:27 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering * Go Hoos! * Fred Thompson 2008)
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To: Goldwater and Gingrich
“I bet for the truly poor their life’s are much better than before.”

If the middle class can’t get milk, sugar, flour and meat what exactly are the poor eating?

Looks to me like they traded freedom for bullets to the head when they finally get enough of Chavez.

20 posted on 11/11/2007 11:45:27 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: james500

More western media lies...

(/sarcasm)


21 posted on 11/12/2007 2:14:50 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: james500
One of the fruits of socialism.


22 posted on 11/12/2007 2:19:52 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (They say the west is nice this time of year. That's what they say.)
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To: james500
"It takes a miracle to find milk," said Arteaga, who spent two hours in line outside a store in the poor Caracas neighborhood of Eucaliptus. "Don't you see I'm here slaving away to see if I can get even one or two of those (containers)?"

Venezuelan consumers are increasingly facing periodic shortages of basic food products as the economy shows signs of overheating amid record revenues from an oil boom.

Took a real economic genius there to re-invent the bread lines of Soviet Union and food shortages of Cuba.

23 posted on 11/12/2007 2:20:52 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: james500

The 37-year-old father-of-two has for months scrambled to find basic products like cooking oil, beef and milk, despite leftist President Hugo Chavez’s social program that promises to provide low-cost groceries to the majority poor.

Well, Chavez’s programs worked. It doesn’t cost anything if nothing is there. However, I’d bet there’s plenty on the black market - for those who can afford the stuff.


24 posted on 11/12/2007 2:29:54 AM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: james500

Cuba writ large.


25 posted on 11/12/2007 3:20:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: lawnguy

Yeah, Danny Glover can bring some peanut butter and Michael Moore can stop by KFC on his way to the airport.


26 posted on 11/12/2007 3:23:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: james500

“The 37-year-old father-of-two has for months scrambled to find basic products like cooking oil, beef and milk, despite leftist President Hugo Chavez’s social program that promises to provide low-cost groceries to the majority poor.”

Isn’t communism just wonderful...The idiots who actually support this guy deserve what they get.


27 posted on 11/12/2007 5:12:34 AM PST by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: james500

Amazingly evil communism ping.


28 posted on 11/12/2007 5:16:20 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Al Gore, the Jessie Jackson of weather.)
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To: james500

I have some colleagues in Venezuela and they believe that this situation is Chavez’s achilles heel.

There is no lo loyalty to Chavez at any level other than the fact he gives hand outs to people. Once those handouts dry up, he is in real trouble.

Nestle and Cargill are the two biggest food suppliers in VE. Chavez attempted to close down Cargill awhile back and quickly recinded the order (Except for those who are working in the offices - figure that out?).

An executive at Cargill told one of my associates that despite the infrastructure and security hazards throughout the country, they have a very reliable supply chain that gets food to even the most remote sections of the country.

Any major disruption in this distrubution could send the country into starvation in a short period of time.

Venezuela is not like Cuba in the sense that the infrastructure and supply chain was built by the state. This is private enterprise and once the incentive disappears, things go away very quickly.


29 posted on 11/12/2007 5:25:59 AM PST by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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To: james500; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
"It takes a miracle to find milk," said Arteaga, who spent two hours in line outside a store in the poor Caracas neighborhood of Eucaliptus.



Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
30 posted on 11/12/2007 10:09:00 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: james500

Sorry Gustavo. The milk money is going to the Rooskies and Chi-coms for arms to protect your new ‘dear leader’.


31 posted on 11/12/2007 10:14:29 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: rabscuttle385
Venezuela...the next Zimbabwe.

As predictable as the rising sun, yet the press seems to somehow be surprised. Can they not read?

32 posted on 11/12/2007 10:37:39 AM PST by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: james500
Venezuelan consumers are increasingly facing periodic shortages of basic food products as the economy shows signs of overheating amid record revenues from an oil boom.

This is being caused by price controls and Chavez printing money. Prosperity doesn't cause inflation or shortages.

33 posted on 11/12/2007 10:45:34 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: james500
The government says the problem is caused by growing demand by poor citizens who benefit from social programs, exaggerated media hype and food hoarding by unscrupulous businesses.

They'll have have to get tough with those hoarders. They need a War On Hoarding.

34 posted on 11/12/2007 11:35:54 AM PST by secretagent
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To: james500

I am sooo looking forward to seeing hugo’s battered corpse hanging upside-down from a lamp post.


35 posted on 11/12/2007 11:39:36 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: james500

>>shortages of basic food products as the economy shows signs of overheating amid record revenues from an oil boom.

Such economic genius at ABC/Reuters. An overheated economy is *not* the cause for a shortage of a basic food product. Period.


36 posted on 11/12/2007 11:42:06 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: james500
in the meantime the clown is literally forcing the construction a new city in the mountains outside caracas...kind of like Soviet style place displacing the residents (most of them poor) and appropriating property nearby --it's all his!

new city

While all that misery happens other clowns visit his excellency


Naomi, how can I serve you? Anyway you like el Lider.

37 posted on 11/12/2007 11:52:25 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: james500
Socialism equals equality of misery. But I guess people prefer to be miserable and poor in Venezuela than prosperous and happy there.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 11/12/2007 12:16:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: DaveTesla
“I bet for the truly poor their life’s are much better than before.”

If the middle class can’t get milk, sugar, flour and meat what exactly are the poor eating?

Communism probably does raise the standards of people who had absolutely nothing to begin with. People that had no medical care might now receive an aspirin. But in the process, the middle class is destroyed.

39 posted on 11/12/2007 12:25:58 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: james500

If they have no milk, let them drink Chablis


40 posted on 11/12/2007 12:28:00 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Your photo of N vs S Korea is the best, unbiased rebuke of government controlled economies.

If the dumbocraps get elected, all Western civilization will look like that image of N. Korea. The global warming drum beat on almost every network and cable program was incessant this weekend. They will ride that global warming horse to defeat any advanced civilization that needs energy to prosper.

41 posted on 11/12/2007 12:30:54 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Democrats= Phony Americans)
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To: Fairview

.....It appears that the Venezuelans who understand capitalism are coming to Florida......

These would be the Aristo’s, the rich who managed the economy to the detriment of the compasenas. They are responsible for Chavez eventhough they did not vote for him.


42 posted on 11/12/2007 12:31:00 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: james500

Only a leftist idiot could take the golden economic opportunity offered by a resource boom and foment food shortages. Akin to getting 10% on a 100 question true-false quiz, even a chimpanzee couldn’t do that - it takes skill and hard work to screw up on such a massive scale.


43 posted on 11/12/2007 12:47:36 PM PST by M203M4 (Rudy Giuliani 2008 - finally get all of the government you are paying for!)
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To: Wurlitzer
Even the people working night shift on squid boats have it better then the NKs.

It's impossible to rationalize socialism when it's put in such a simple statement as this picture.

44 posted on 11/12/2007 1:44:55 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (They say the west is nice this time of year. That's what they say.)
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To: TexasRepublic
“Communism probably does raise the standards of people who had absolutely nothing to begin with.”

How is that so?
If one goes from having little to loosing his liberty and
then his life, how is that so?

The only thing communism is good for is DEATH.


Hundred's of millions of lives and counting.

45 posted on 11/15/2007 8:26:01 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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