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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
288% more energy out would indicate that you put in 1 watt of electricity in and get out 3.88 watts worth of power (2.88 watts more). This isn’t magic like so many other claims because it is consuming both the electricity and the aetic acid chemical energy to produce the output energy. So the key question becomes how abundant (and therefore inexpensive) is aetic acid (or what it is made from)?
16 posted on 11/12/2007 11:46:30 PM PST by DB
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To: DB

Sounds like somebody’s thinking on this thread.


18 posted on 11/13/2007 12:24:09 AM PST by TheThinker (Clarity, Honesty, Logic, Imagination. These are the keys to truth and the defense against liberalism)
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To: DB

An acid that is produced through cellulose fermentation is acetic acid. It runs about 65 cents a pound. If this is the acid the article is talking about, then it is fairly cheap and abundant. The Chinese have been inflating the cost over the last several years due to its use of acetic acid in manufacturing.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 1:02:05 AM PST by TheThinker (Clarity, Honesty, Logic, Imagination. These are the keys to truth and the defense against liberalism)
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To: DB
LOL,
3.88 watts for each watt = 388 percent.

Where do you get the extra watt?

25 posted on 11/13/2007 3:42:53 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: DB
So the key question becomes how abundant (and therefore inexpensive) is aetic acid (or what it is made from)?

Acetic acid -- the active ingredient in vinegar.

48 posted on 11/13/2007 7:17:41 AM PST by r9etb
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The aether.


56 posted on 11/13/2007 10:43:09 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: DB
You're confusing energy and power here. Power is a measure of energy produced/consumed per unit time. If you raise an object that weighs 550 lbs a distance of 1 foot, that is an expenditure of 550 ft-lbs of energy. To perform that task in a 1 second period requires 1 horsepower. If you spread the task out over 10 seconds with a reduction gear, the task requires only 1/10th horsepower. The amount of "work" done is nominally the same amount of energy. The amount of energy created per unit time hasn't improved.

Having distinguished the difference between power and energy, I pose the question: what kind of power can this new approach yield? Is it practically useful or just theoretically amusing? If generating 288% more energy takes 288% longer to accomplish, you haven't really made any progress.

59 posted on 11/13/2007 12:32:42 PM PST by Myrddin
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