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To: dangerdoc
"Bottled hydrogen in a very small part of the hydrogen market."

I suggest you visit the Air Products website and check out the hydrogen section to get an idea of how "small" the bottled hydrogen market really is.

"There is not enough energy in a bottle of hydrogen to be feasable for fuel use."

Depends on how you use it as fuel, now doesn't it.

"The hydrogen bottles are designed for hydrogen. Black pipe infrastructure is not.

Hydrogen bottles ARE "black pipe" (i.e. a carbon steel alloy). I haven't found yet exactly which alloy they use, but I can guarantee you that hydrogen bottles are NOT stainless steel, because their "outsides" DO rust where the paint is chipped.

"Hydrogen has many disadvantages and only one advantage. If you believe that man made CO2 is causing global warming then hydrogen allows you to move the CO2 production from the tail pipe to a plant where you can capture it.

ANYTHING that increases the availability of energy for mankind is a good thing. If hydrogen production using bacteria and biomass helps do that, then that's a good thing.

Hydrogen is one of the earliest "industrial gases" that mankind ever used in large quantities--starting as "town gas" (~50% hydrogen) produced from low-temperature gasification of coal which originated around 1802, and distributed by, guess what, BLACK PIPE plumbing. We've been using hydrogen on an industrial scale ever since. We know how to handle it with sufficient safety. And I get damned tired of scaremongers like you constantly harping on "how dangerous" it is.

70 posted on 11/13/2007 5:41:02 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“And I get damned tired of scaremongers like you constantly harping on “how dangerous” it is.”

I don’t think it is that dangerous, it’s just the more you know about it, the less it makes sense. I won’t spend anymore time trying to educate you, apparently you are just getting angry.


82 posted on 11/14/2007 5:56:49 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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