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Court takes no action in guns case (Heller)
The Associated Press ^ | 11/13/2007 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/13/2007 8:01:58 AM PST by ctdonath2

WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court took no action Tuesday in the case involving the District of Columbia's ban on handguns.

The justices discussed the case at their private conference on Friday, but reached no resolution.

Four justices must vote to grant an appeal. The court does not always reach a decision the first time it discusses a case.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; heller; parker; scotus
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To: ctdonath2

Who gives a sh*t what the SCOTUS has to say? If they rule the 2nd Amendment means no right to bear arms, then we’ll have to make sure that we and our representatives and law enforcement officials IGNORE such a ruling as illegitimate. Just as the Dred Scot ruling was illegitimate.


21 posted on 11/13/2007 8:21:14 AM PST by montag813
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To: umgud
The Tuesday "Order List" should state all the cases the Couort is accepting (less than half a percent, usually) and all of the cases it is not taking. I'm going to check this on Google News. But if the Heller case is NOT on the list either way, then the decision to take/not take the case has NOT been made.

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22 posted on 11/13/2007 8:23:44 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Today would be a good day.)
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To: ctdonath2

I expect the court will not hear the appeal. They don’t want to lock this issue up. It’s only a matter of time until it comes back.


23 posted on 11/13/2007 8:27:27 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Filo

Can’t we take judicial notice yet that the 9th Circuit is wrong about (almost) everything?


24 posted on 11/13/2007 8:28:04 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Looks like the SCOTUS is following its well-establish and time-honored position of cowardice on the issue of RKBA.

I can't say I'm surprised.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

25 posted on 11/13/2007 8:33:42 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: irishtenor
This non-news brought to you by NNN the Non-News Network. Stand by for other breaking non-news as the day progresses.

That certainly make a lot of non-sense.

26 posted on 11/13/2007 8:35:23 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (“Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.” John Adams)
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To: ctdonath2

No news isn’t always good news. Should this eventually come down national or state gun ownership rights, and that right be denied by these high and mighty court people...I predict one hell of a rebellion! ‘Take the guns away from law abiding, only the bad guys will have guns.’ of which I agree.


27 posted on 11/13/2007 8:37:10 AM PST by JamesA
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To: Turret Gunner A20

LOL.


28 posted on 11/13/2007 8:38:18 AM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")
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To: ctdonath2; All
Az challenge for the Freeper legal team:

How does the USSC rule that grandma can have her Glock in DC but that Bill Gates cannot build a 50,000 man army with Nuclear Weapons?

I know it may sound like I'm anti-gun, I'm not. I am a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and own many firearms...to include so-called "assault weapons".

But I do struggle with the implications of a strict and clear interpretation of the 2nd's "right to keep and bear arms" in the 21st century.

Either these guys will have to "interpret" for us, or we'll have a pretty serious constitutional issue to deal with...literal interpretation will require a NEW constitutional amendment to narrow "arms" to "personal firearms".

Thoughts?

29 posted on 11/13/2007 8:38:52 AM PST by Mariner
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To: Joe Brower

Mercury News is source ? AP ?

Last press we read here stated that Tuesday the SCOTUS would discuss granting the appeal and Thursday they would make public their decision to hear the case or not ........

Mercury News and AP can’t spell Thursday ?........:o)


30 posted on 11/13/2007 8:39:36 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Joe Brower
Cowardice or exactitude? If they still want to conference on this some more... so be it. At least they didn't reject it outright. I'm cautiously optimistic at this point.

That they want another week to look at this is ok with me. It means they are serious about it and doing their homework. At least, I hope that is what it means. If they actually look at the Constitutional Convention, the Debates, and the articles of the First Congress, they can't help but come to the same conclusion the lower Court did.

That RKBA is a Nationally protected Right of the Individual. That laws banning possession are unConstitutional on their face. And that even carry laws that forbid carry altogether are equally as unConstitutional.

31 posted on 11/13/2007 8:43:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ctdonath2
More commentary at SCOTUSblog.
32 posted on 11/13/2007 8:43:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: sourcery

since no one else but them could know, you are correct.


33 posted on 11/13/2007 8:43:32 AM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: ctdonath2
They haven’t decided. The issue is more complicated that one day’s debate can reach a conclusion on.

The Court may be hesitating because of the uncertainty of where certain justices are leaning on the underlying issue. The four judges who probably view individual gun ownership as a fundemental right may not want to take the case because if the collective rights advocates prevail, then not only is the D.C Circuit Court overturned, but that states and municipalities will have wide latitude in banning firearms. These four justices would rather let the D.C Circuit Court decision stand and hope that the next appointment to the Suprem Court is solidly in their camp, rather than granting cert now and taking the chance that the collective rights position will carry the day.

The four judges who are likely to overturn the D.C. Circuit Court have a similar problem: They may not want to grant cert now at the risk of five judges affirming the lower court decision. They too would rather let the lower court decision stand in the hopes that the next appointment is more likely to side with the collective rights theory.

My guess is that Kennedy is the swing vote and is playing his cards very close to his chest.

34 posted on 11/13/2007 8:44:58 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Dead Corpse

More time is not unreasonable, given the fact that both sides want it heard, but can’t agree what the question is. Also given that ANY decision will have serious repercussions, good that they take time making sure they make the right decision.


35 posted on 11/13/2007 8:45:15 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Squantos

You’re off by a few days. The judges debated the issue on Friday, and were scheduled to announce the decision (IF there was a decision, which there wasn’t) on Tuesday (today).


36 posted on 11/13/2007 8:46:57 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Cowardice or exactitude?"

Good question, and I considered it. Based on their past inaction on this fundamental issue, I lean towards the reason being the former. Unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

37 posted on 11/13/2007 8:47:47 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Red Badger
Run away!!!

 

38 posted on 11/13/2007 8:47:54 AM PST by Redcloak (This post certified 100% Hillary-free. um... Never mind.)
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To: Mariner
How does the USSC rule that grandma can have her Glock in DC but that Bill Gates cannot build a 50,000 man army with Nuclear Weapons?

The 2nd covers both - and I wish Bill would build an army!

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; [...] To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

From Wikipedia: In the past, a ship operating under a letter of marque and reprisal was privately owned and was called a "private man-of-war" or "privateer."

What would be the point of issuing Letters of Marque to unarmed ships?

Private armies, aka the Militia, are the mainstay of the Constitution. The army of the Federal government should be subordinate to them. The whole concept of a government by the people and for the people comes into play. . .
39 posted on 11/13/2007 8:48:08 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: ctdonath2

Better not to hear the case than to risk losing it.

I think this leaves the appeals court finding against the DC laws in place, so not hearing it would have a positive effect.

If they decide not to hear it, it will be because they talk it over, suggest how they would vote, and Roberts decides it’s not worth taking a chance on it now.

Of course, there are always dangers. If hillary is elected, or Rudy, the balance on the court may tip liberal again. This will be a key election.


40 posted on 11/13/2007 8:50:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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