Was Hitler a Christian? [Dinesh D'Souza rebuts atheist canard]

Townhall ^ | November 5, 2007 | Dinesh D'Souza

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

The fact that atheists even run with the “Hitler was a Christian” line in the first place shows that they are not nearly as “bright” as they think themselves to be.

[drpix]

Two of Hitler's close associates - who where among the few who survived the war and the Nuremberg trials - provide the final word on this. Both Speer and Bormann published books with Hitlers actual words on which Religon inspired him. It was not Christianity.... but Islam

Martin Bormann's (Nazi Chancellor) "TABLE TALKS 1941-1944" are the transcripts of Hitler's conversations. It contains this Hilter quote from 8/21/42:

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already you see the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."

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Albert Speer Minister for Armaments wrote in his "Inside the Third Reich" the following:

'Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs. When the Mohammedans had attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.'

'Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japansese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"'

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In short, Hitler despised Christianity as a weakling Jewish influence Religion, but he admired Islam and bemoaned the fact the Islam did not conquer all of Europe in the 8th century.

[dangerdoc]

Christian is as Christian does. Hitler was no Christian.

[dangerdoc]

Christian is as Christian does. Hitler was no Christian.

[VOA]

You Mean Hitler Wasn’t A Priest?
The truth is, in fact, out there.
http://www.nationalreview.com/shiflett/shiflett012102.shtml

[PzLdr]

Hitler claimed Christ was the son of a Roman Centurion and a Jewish prostitute. That’s not exactly Christian doctrine.

Heydrich planned to infiltrate Catholic seminaries with Hitler Youth/ SS and subvert the Church from within. Hitler said he would settle up with the Church after the War, especially after Cardinal Gehlen’s and others’ sermons from the pulpit helped galvanize opposition to the T4 program [euthanasia], forcing Hitler to shut it down.

[drpix]

CORRECTION: Jewish influence Religion = Jewish influenced Religion

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Oh, I definitely agree. It’s not too different from the Spanish “viva!”

[Deb]

Everyone knows Hitler was Frizbeetarian.

He believed if you're bad, your soul lands on the roof and you can never get it down.

[A CA Guy]

People can consider themselves anything they want, but it doesn’t make it necessarily so.

[VOA]

Why was Hitler ticked at Himmler for spending so much time and money
on the Ahnenerbe (ancestoral research looking for Aryan culture around
the globe)?

Because Hitler was afraid that the plan to end Christianity (after
killing of Judaism) would get too much publicity. And the world might
realize that Himmler’s plan was to cobble together a “religion”
based on old pagan traditions that would replace Christianity.

This and lots of other great stuff about those wild-and-crazy
Nazis are in this well-documented book.

MASTER PLAN, THE: HIMMLER’S SCHOLARS AND THE HOLOCAUST
by Heather Pringle
http://www.amazon.com/MASTER-PLAN-HIMMLERS-SCHOLARS-HOLOCAUST/dp/0786887737/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-9427455-5875964?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194980119&sr=8-1

[Bommer]

More importantly Hitler, Mao and Stalin were all like todays liberals! Gods only unto themselves!

[Madame Dufarge]

Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity

[Lady Heron]

Hitler was into the occult and was no Christian.

As a matter of fact the Church was one of the things the nazi's were set on destroying.

[Danette]

A distant relative of mine was a confirmation sponsor for Hitler. When Hitler didn’t show up on time for church, he went looking for him. When he found him, he grabbed Hitler by the ear and drug him screaming to church.

Hitler was no christian.

[Verginius Rufus]

Hitler definitely was a Catholic in his childhood. I once ran across a German Who's Who from the mid-1930s which had an entry for him (not in the alphabetical place but at the front of the volume) and it listed his religion as "katolisch." Obviously he had ceased to be a Catholic in any meaningful sense, but evidently still found it useful to have himself listed as one.

[\/\/ayne]

Hitler was somewhat under the sway of Alfred Rosenberg, who was anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, and an outspoken pagan.

In "The Ultra Spy" British spy F.W. Winterbotham recounts how Rosenberg proudly took him to a Hitler Youth pagan solstice celebration. He describes in detail how the boys circled the top of an ancient keep, raising their daggers to the sun god in a "pagan ritual" and finally giving a "great shout." Winterbotham concluded "The whole thing was in deadly earnest" as I recall.

[Between the Lines]

It is more than a little ironic that we Christians who normally rejoice over the fact that one has become a Christian, are here now vehemently arguing how someone could never be a Christian.

We are all sinners. Are Hitler's sins any greater than my sins? Is killing 6 million Jews any worse than wishing death to all Wahhabi Mooslems? It only takes one sin to damn us to hell. Isn't His blood and His grace sufficient to cover all sin?

I am not arguing if Hitler was a Christian or not, I am arguing that this is a silly debate for Christians to fall for.

[drpix]

" Is killing 6 million Jews any worse than wishing death to all Wahhabi Mooslems?

If you can ask that question, you are morally clueless - whatever your religion may be.

[Between the Lines]

" Is killing 6 million Jews any worse than wishing death to all Wahhabi Mooslems? If you can ask that question, you are morally clueless - whatever your religion may be.

Try reading Matthew 5.