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Posted on 11/20/2007 7:17:44 PM PST by DogByte6RER
Mother-to-be flees as social workers warn her they will take her baby away at birth
By PAUL SIMS
20th November 2007
A mother-to-be has fled her home after social workers threatened to take her baby within minutes of the birth.
Fran Lyon, 22, hopes a new local authority will take a different approach.
She insists that the mental health problems she had as a teenager - she started self-harming at 15 and has been treated at psychiatric hospitals for borderline personality disorder - are now behind her and there is no evidence she will harm her child.
Miss Lyon moved out of Hexham after receiving a copy of her "birth plan" from social services at Northumberland County Council.
It says she will be given a maximum of 15 minutes with her baby - who she has already named Molly - before she is taken into care.
She is now in the Birmingham Yardley constituency of Liberal Democrat MP John Hemming, who has taken up her case and is campaigning to overturn the decision.
Miss Lyon said she had been hounded out of her home by a "barbaric" decision and felt she had no choice but to move if she is to have any chance of keeping her baby.
She added: "It is a sad indictment of a local authority in the way they have dealt with an expectant mother who has tried to co-operate with some of the most extreme measures imaginable."
Miss Lyon said social workers fear she is likely to develop Munchausen's syndrome by proxy. The controversial condition is said to lead mothers to seek attention by harming their child or claiming it is ill.
"I have been told that I am not even to breastfeed my child in case I try to poison her," she said.
"As far as I am concerned, the birth plan is abusive and I will just not stand for it. It would leave Molly isolated from anybody who loves her from the first few minutes of her life. It is barbaric and it deprives her of a basic right."
She hopes Birmingham City Council will review the case, but admitted: "I don't know what's going to happen. It's a waiting game at the moment."
Miss Lyon became involved with social services in July after a domestic incident involving her former partner.
At a subsequent meeting, she revealed her history of mental health problems and was told they would be taking action to remove her child once she is born in January.
Munchausen's - first identified by Sir Roy Meadow during the 1970s - has been at the heart of a series of miscarriages of justice.
Sir Roy was responsible for evidence that led to the wrongful convictions of Angela Cannings and Sally Clark for murdering their children. Mrs Clark died earlier this year.
Miss Lyon has appealed for a place in a mother and baby unit so she can look after her child under supervision.
Northumberland County Council said last night: "Where a child or unborn baby is subject to a child protection plan and they move to another local authority area, responsibility would normally pass to the new authority.
"A transfer conference is arranged as soon as possible and the family and their support are usually invited to attend. The existing plan is discussed, but the new authority makes its own decisions about how to proceed.
"Northumberland County Council would make sure the new authority has all the relevant information it needs to make informed decisions."
Mr Hemming is chairman of the Justice for Families organisation and believes councils are now taking more babies to meet Government adoption targets.
He said of Miss Lyon's case: "What could be more traumatic than for a mother to have her baby taken away at birth? It's monstrous.
"That, in itself, can cause mental health problems which are then used by social services against the mother as a reason not to return the baby. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"There has been a massive increase in younger babies being taken into care before there is even any evidence of harm."
The MP, married with four children, made headlines in 2005 when he fathered a love child after a six-year affair with his personal assistant.
Wrong.
Borderline Personality Disorder
Index
Criteria
Definition
Treatment ( Psychotherapy )
Treatment ( Pharmacotherapy )
Definition
Borderline Personality Disorder is characterized by a lack of ones own identity, with rapid changes in mood, intense unstable interpersonal relationships, marked impulsively, instability in affect, and instability in self image.
ONSET: Early adulthood and with a variety of contexts.
Diagnostic Criteria ( DSM-IV™ ) made easy.
1. Rapid changes in mood, intense unstable interpersonal relationships, marked impulsively, instability in affect, and instability in self image.
As indicated by at least five of the following:
1. Going to about any lengths to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
2. Intense unstable interpersonal relationships characterized by changing between idealization and devaluation the relationship.
3. Lack of ones own identity. A Marked instability of self image or the sense of self.
4. Impulsively in two or more areas that are self damaging. These may included abuse, sex, spending, eating, driving reckless, or etc.
5. Recurrent gestures, self mutilation, suicidal behavior, or threats.
6. Instability in affect.
7. Marked feelings of emptiness.
8. Frequent displays of anger due to a difficulty in control.
9. Dissociative or paranoid.
Gay rights activists will side with her, and baby Molly will be with Mommy and Mommy's new "domestic partners." Violence is just another lifestyle choice.
You really ARE a thinkin’ gal! That scarf is a cover-up, not an accessory. These photos are propaganda for her, not photojournalism.
Revolution.
None.
The 'agents' have been brain-washed out of all humanity and reasoning capabilities - You must become a robotron
many are misdiagnosed as such - hanging a mill stone around their neck for life...
In the past 30 years, anyone who isn't milk-toast, can easily be diagnosed with any one of a myriad of "borderlines" - it's great for the drug companies and medical communities...and social services who seem to have more "certifiables" employed than most professions.
I sat in on hearings in my state capitol where the state admitted that up to 86% of the families they move against by taking the child out of the home - prove to be unfounded.
Those children have been traumatized, their security in the ability of their parents to protect them in the safety of their home, forever taken away - child abuse, and nothing else.
Their answer to this: "Well, we'd rather err in the name of caution."
So their reasoning is that if they traumatize 86 children out of a hundred totally without foundation - that's okay?
That okay with you?
According to my wife the shrink, borderlines often "outgrow" the disorder. That said, borderlines are seriously messed up and make life difficult for everyone around them. People and situations are either completely terrific or totally awful, and the two can switch without notice.
Men: If your new girlfriend has scars from where she has cut herself, don't walk away, run.
If you aren't in state child services, you've missed your calling. You have the mind set. Take a baby away from it's natural mother, away from breast feeding, with absolutely no evidence that this mother has ever harmed a child or will.
If the state makes this an established pattern, there wont be many babies raised by their parents - not everyone fits the mold that the state determines what or who is normal.
I know a young mother with Aspergers. . She's a pain in the neck. She has no seeming awareness of anyone else's rights or thoughts etc...and yet, she is a single mother of an 8 year old - and one of the best and most devoted mothers I know.
Her daughter is happy, healthy, always clean and well dressed, is ahead of her age in reading, writing, verbal skills, etc -= because her mother takes so much time with her.
She has dancing lessons, and many other social outlets. An adorable and well loved little girl.
By your standards, she would have been taken at birth -
It is naivete or socialist mindset?
Totally agree with your whole post - Maybe, just maybe, a few more people will wake up if they finally get Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" movie made next spring - and if they do it right.
She spells out the baby-steps with which Socialism/Communism takes over a country - all it takes if for most people to be asleep - and the Socialist/Communist personalities will rise up and pull on their jack boots.
For the, I expect, vast majority of people who haven't/wont read 'that BIG book' Atlas Shrugged, many WILL go to the movie - and some, hopefully enough, will then take the blinders off.
Take courage. (These jack-booters have been beaten back before - we can do it again.)
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The scarf in post 2 looked a little odd to me (just seemed a bit out of place style-wise). Compare the view in post 3. There is some kind of blue band/thing that the scarf is covering up. What did she do to her neck?
You folk = and many others on this thread would really, but really make top-notch nanny-state worker bees. Here's the original poop on the story (and in my world, I hope for people who explore and research a situation before condemning a child to the loss of it's mother)
"Lyon frank about her history.
Lyon, who works for Borderline UK, helping people diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, is frank about her own personal history. She explains that, by 13 or 14, she was “already seriously anorexic” and “was being quite seriously abused”.
By her own account, she was raped by an acquaintance while working as a volunteer in a charity shop and her behaviour became increasingly self-destructive. In addition to her difficulties with eating, she began self-harming by cutting her arms.
To complicate matters further, Lyon says that since the age of 11 she has suffered from angioedema (swelling of the skin) and for the past two years has been fitted with a permanent tracheostomy tube to help her breathe.
At 15, Lyon says she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and admitted to the Cassel Hospital in Richmond, south London, where she spent a year as an in-patient, followed by nine months as an out-patient. The diagnosis was finally removed when she was 18.
She works for Borderline, the scarf is to cover up a tracheostomy tube, The diagnosis of borderline was finally removed when she was 18.
She mentions the domestic dispute with her partner, in one place, saying "my ex" in another = no where is there any mention of a gay lover, as others here have alluded too - etc etc.
I think I'd trust this gal with my child before some of the personalities I've read in here tonight: "Borderline Nanny-Staters".
have we really gone that far into socialist/communist, nanny-state thinking?
BUMP
[Rolling eyes]. What did she do to her neck? Well, apparently nothing. She's got a trache tube. You could have just posted that info without getting all indignant. Talk about being quick to judge.
The bureaucrats deserve long prison terms for that, ten years or more, but they won’t get it.
Common sense evaluation is not nanny-stating. You are relying on her own story of what happened ..... uh, that’s a sure path to being made a fool. Use your brain.
This is the battle you choose to fight? Are you with the ACLU?
.....caused by self-poisoning?
You just proved his point exactly.
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