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Ron Paul raises $9 million in 2 months
Seattle Times ^ | 11/23/07

Posted on 11/24/2007 9:22:29 AM PST by traviskicks

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To: traditional1
Paul is NOT backed by the lefties, because there are no lefties: there are only statists and lovers of liberty.
101 posted on 11/24/2007 6:48:28 PM PST by Stevieboy
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yes, but why wasn’t his prolife position on that flier?


102 posted on 11/24/2007 7:13:11 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

“Yes, but why wasn’t his prolife position on that flier?”

You know the answer to that question. You don’t need to ask me. Albeit rhetorically.

Think about it. If the leftist loons that everyone says make up Ron Pauls base of support ever found that out, half of his supporters would all run screaming in horror.

If the other half ever found out that he won’t give them other people’s money from the public treasury for whatever do gooder social engineering experiment or greater good the rest of them would run for the hills.

Paul haters are going about this the wrong way by bashing limited government adherents on FR, IMHO.


103 posted on 11/24/2007 7:19:43 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“Granted some of his votes were headscratchers. He did vote against the fetal protection bill and the tort reform limits on medical malpractice awards.”

Yes, and this bothers me. Anyone who reads the Dec. of Ind. and the Constitution honestly must acknowledge the fundamental principles that life comes from God, and no government has the right to deprive any innocent person of his right to life.

Yet, Ron Paul claims he is prolife, although it was not on the literature I received, and claims he looks at issues constitutionally,and yet he voted against the fetal protection bill.

It does not add up.


104 posted on 11/24/2007 7:21:52 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I agree. They need to examine, and post, his inconsistencies.


105 posted on 11/24/2007 7:24:09 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

I guess what I am saying is if all of his supporters are leftist baby killers, then go on these forums and tell his supporters how much you love Ron Paul for being pro life.

Try reverse psychology. As far as his discussion here is concerned, it’s pretty sad when the Congresscritter who has the highest rating by the NTU gets called a loon and insane.

Maybe you have to be a loon to not vote to give the people largesse from the public treasury.


106 posted on 11/24/2007 8:12:22 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Paperdoll; AuntB
See my post #70.

Your post #70 would be in error, as was documented elsewhere on this thread...not a big deal to me, don't worry about it.

The difference is that Ron Paul never claimed to be a combat veteran, or allowed others to claim combat soldier status for him (actually, combat airman, as he was Air Force).

Duncan Hunter has some things to explain...just for the purpose of clarity. The Rats would be asking the same questions had he a chance at the nomination. May as well get them out of the way now. You don't need the John Kerry factor in the Republican Party.

107 posted on 11/24/2007 9:47:05 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Allegra

Glad we agree.


108 posted on 11/24/2007 10:16:12 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: traviskicks

What’s that adage about a fool and his money?


109 posted on 11/24/2007 10:17:01 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: Iwo Jima

So is Kinky Friedman. And Hee Haw.


110 posted on 11/24/2007 10:18:02 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You are a raving lunatic. Come back when you are able to form a coherent thought.


111 posted on 11/24/2007 10:19:30 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Eric Blair 2084
He did vote against the fetal protection bill and the tort reform limits on medical malpractice awards.

Naturally. Any good conservative would have done so. Nothing in the Constitution allows the federal government to protect fetuses (Fred Thompson agrees) or any living persons from murder or to outlaw any form of murder, nor impose limits on medical malpractice awards. No self-respecting conservative would vote for any of those bills.
112 posted on 11/24/2007 10:27:25 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: AuntB; George W. Bush
That’s it, throw out some more nonsense that you dreamed up about Hunter. Down in the gutter with the democrats today or are you the same disruptor who pulled this on another forum? No one else has ever been silly enough to question Hunter’s military record.

Lots of bluster, but the question remains: If Hunter was a combat soldier, where is his Combat Infantry Badge? You don't think that the Dims will be asking the same questions? Dream on.

BTW, you know damned well that i'm not the only person to raise this question. i monitor the other boards, and see your Duncan Hunter spam all over them too.

The "Disruptor" you refer to is a guy that used to post here named SneakyPete. He's over at LibertyPost now. i don't post there, so i haven't talked to him in a while.

SneakyPete is a retired Special Operations Soldier who ran ops into ICTZ, and Laos. He was part of a Hatchet company in SOG, an instructor for the Special Forces, and a guy who has been around the block a couple of dozen times. You better think real hard before you call him a disruptor, cause there are a few combat vets here who would be willing to b!tc# slap sense into you over stupid comments such as that...i'm happy to allow you to make an @$$ out of yourself, it's a free country...for the moment.

f you have something to slam Hunter on his service record, let’s see it or stop with your made up attacks. There’s nothing to show you and you know it. How’s your guys record? Just keep slamming our military and people like Duncan Hunter who fought so you can be a keyboard coward throwing out your garbage.

More bluster without substance. Incidentally, i don't have to prove my manhood. i served my time, and were it not for the fact that i'm TOO DAMNED OLD, i'd have gone back. i tried to return after 9/11, but was TOO DAMNED OLD then as well. My boy will be going with his brigade of the 101st Airborne in January. The fifth generation of my family. Hopefully he does better than the members of my family who returned in boxes. So you can take that setiment and stuff it some place where you can keep it safe for the next person you want to impress with your bluster. It don't impress me one bit.

My guy never made claims to be a combat airman (he was Air Force), Neither have any of his "friends" made any such claims about him.. i did once, but was in error, i've never met the man, so i hardly count as a friend. It is still unclear as to whether Paul was ever in Vietnam at all. i don't think that anybody has ever asked him that question. The fact remains, that Paul never claimed to have served in combat, and neither have his friends made such a claim. It would be a pretty asanine thing for Paul to do in light of his Air Force flight surgeon status.

As for shame, i have nothing to be ashamed of. i raise the question, YOU provide the answer...if you can. Hunter needs to provide his own proof. All he simply has to do is sign the 180 Form that John Kerry still refuses to sign. Hunter can clear this up once and for all.

Incidentally, we're speaking of Duncan Hunter Sr. Duncan Hunter Jr., who is running for his father's seat, has a record beyond question that is heavily documented.

Now, where the hell did you get the idea that the military ever drafted Medical Doctors? Do you even HAVE military experience? Sure doesn't sound as if you do.

113 posted on 11/24/2007 10:42:29 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: RockinRight
And your point is WHAT, you Marylander, you? Is liking HeeHaw something to be ashamed of? America -- real America -- likes Hee-Haw. Real America IS Hee-Haw.

YOU people who live in places like Maryland REALLY do not understand America, and that is why you are so determined to destroy her.

YOU people in Maryland had better damn well start to pay attention to what people in Texas think. YOU people are going to be the ruin of this country. We are going to be its savior, if saving America is possible.

Ron Paul is very popular with freedomn-loving people, meaning people in Texas. He is very unpopular with statist people in Maryland like you.

Mainstream Republicans in Texas agree that Kinky Friedman would have been a better governor than Rick Perry.
114 posted on 11/24/2007 10:44:41 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

“...freedom-loving people...”??? You really believe that?

Scroll down to the bottom of the link...take a look at some of the “freedom-loving people” that support this anti-semite...


115 posted on 11/24/2007 11:36:11 PM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: sofaman
That link was pretty pathetic.

But of course, it had nothing to do with Ron Paul. You knew that, didn't you?

You say that Ron Paul is an anti-semite. What possible basis could you have for making such an unforgivable smear against Ron Paul? No supportable claim on that issue has ever been lodged against Ron Paul.
116 posted on 11/25/2007 12:12:27 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: traviskicks

The question should be what is he going to do with all that money? He will not win any primary. People give him all this money for what? 3rd party he said no. Give it to other canidates he said he will not support. People are throwing money down a rathole. I do not see other canidates picking up his positions.


117 posted on 11/25/2007 12:22:24 AM PST by Brimack34
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To: Iwo Jima; AuntB
I've posted the evidence several times...

besides a simpering statement by a Paul campaign spokesman, his campaign and Paul himself have done absolutely nothing to disassociate themselves from the KKK and Stormfront, to name two anti-Semitic organizations supporting him.

In fact, Paul himself, has said exactly nothing.

By his congressional votes, he has made his position on Israel abundantly clear, too.

The link is clear evidence of their support. But it's "pathetic" in your view, which in and of itself, speaks volumes.

The simple fact is that Paul tacitly encourages their support by saying, and doing, nothing. He does the same thing with the 9/11 Truthers.

His vote, referred to in Post #79, additionally speaks volumes. That vote may mean nothing to you, it speaks volumes to me.

Pathetic? Not really.

Like the saying goes, "Words mean things". When you say them, and when you don't.

118 posted on 11/25/2007 12:26:26 AM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: Iwo Jima

I posted this a few days back. Read it...don’t read it. I couldn’t care less. The fact is that I will judge Paul by the company he keeps, which in this case would be his supporters:

You mean “ordinary Americans” like David Duke, who refers to Ron Paul as “our king”? take a look at Duke’s website and you can follow the links contained under the heading, “Support Ron Paul’s Nov. 11th Fund-Raiser”. Just another “ordinary American”.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ron-paul-one-388512.html

How about those “ordinary Americans”?

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-11-11&e=407&c=1

KKK ordinary Americans?

“One of Ron Paul’s top internet organizers in Tennessee is a neo-Nazi leader named Will Williams (aka ‘White Will’). Williams was the southern coordinator for William Pierce’s National Alliance Party, the largest neo-Nazi party in the U.S.” Reported by Adam Holland on his Blog and re-reported in The American thinker.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-12-1&e=408&c=1

Another announcement of a KKK meeting... “ordinary Americans”? And along with that announcement you can follow the link to the Ron Paul website.

“On the white-supremacist Vanguard News Network, Williams links to Paul’s “grassroots” fundraising site and organizes other racists to “game You Tube” to advance a specific Ron Paul video to the top of You Tube’s rankings. Writes Williams, “Everybody here can do this, except bjb w/his niggerberry.” Holland points out, “BJB” stands for “burn Jew burn”. BJB’s internet signature is, “Nothing says lovin’ like a Jew in the oven.”

These are some of the “ordinary Americans” supporting Ron Paul. Why? And why is his campaign issuing what can only be described as embarrassingly lame responses to the support of avoid racists such as these “ordinary Americans”?

On You Tube, you may view a video in which Ron Paul is endorsed by Hutton Gibson, a leading Holocaust denier and father of controversial actor and director Mel Gibson.

And of course Paul is supported by another “ordinary American”, none other than Patrick J Buchanan...

These are serious questions that don’t seem to elicit a serious response either from you, or from Paul’s campaign.


119 posted on 11/25/2007 12:31:06 AM PST by sofaman ("This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.")
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To: All

Ugh. Next time a Libertarian talks about opposing decency in broadcasting, show them the Sarah Silverman show. Tape their eyes open and make them watch all the episodes.

Then change the channel to sci-fi, make them watch the blood and gore sabertooth squirl movies without a plot.


120 posted on 11/25/2007 12:35:06 AM PST by Hunterite
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