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The Club for Growth opposes Congressman Hunter
The Club for Growth ^
| October 30, 2006
| Andrew Roth
Posted on 11/24/2007 6:20:54 PM PST by Kurt Evans
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To: AuntB
California bashing on FR is also getting old as is bashing people who live in large cities.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:14:34 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: SoCalPol
Agreed. I must say I feel sorry for anyone who has to live in a large city. Been there, done that, wouldn’t trade what I have for all of them.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:18:25 PM PST
by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: AuntB
I very much appreciate the fact that your criticisms are substantive rather than personal. That is a welcome development in the debate over Ron Paul.
The record that you described is not Ron Paul's "true record." His real record is well known to his constituents in Texas. That's why he keeps getting re-elected even though the Republican Party actively campaigns against him.
That Ron Paul's many liberty-advancing bills have not been enacted into law is the fault of those that oppose liberty. We will never advance liberty by getting rid of those with the right ideas in favor of those with wrong ideas who can get their ideas enacted.
Other than building the fence at San Diego, what has Duncan Hunter accomplished? Not to attack him, but he has good ideas that have not been enacted. That's not his fault. At least he's trying.
What are the accomplishments of Rudy or Romney or McCain that advanced liberty? (They don't even have the right ideas.) Or Thompson for that matter. OR ANYONE!!!
At least Ron Paul got us the American Eagle gold coin. And his pressure on the fed as chairman of the banking committee (subcommittee?) has helped to keep the fed honest, at least more so than they otherwise would have been.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:22:23 PM PST
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: AuntB
I enjoy living in the heart of a large busy city.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:25:01 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: traviskicks
Travis, for your edification, see
Post 203 , which sheds the light of day on the "Club for Growth"
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:25:39 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
To: Iwo Jima
Go to Hunter’s congressional site.
His major accomplishments re the military and national security for the past many years exceeds that of most congressmen and senators.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:28:36 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: MSF BU
Duncan Duane (D2)? You mean the congressional race in CA?
I think he will win that.
Duncan Lee (D1) though will be in the Presidential Primary.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:30:29 PM PST
by
Calpernia
(Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
To: AuntB
Thanks for going to the trouble of digging all this up. I knew they were globalist, but the Gingrich/Norquist linkage is an important issue that we must never forget. That pair is about the most dangerous duo in the Republican party. Newt was the reason that nothing of importance ever got done when the Republicans took over congress in ‘94.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:30:49 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
To: AuntB
In 1996, Moore along with Grover Norquist helped defeat any measures aimed at enforcement in an immigration reform bill.That is a real eye-opening post, AuntB. Moore, Norquist and their ilk at the Country Club for Growth are the elitists of our party. They are very powerful and very influential. It's going to be very difficult to keep them from nominating Rudy next year.
As far as I am concerned, the Moore-Norquist bunch can burn in hell. They don't seem to care at all about this country.
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:36:08 PM PST
by
tear gas
(Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
To: Iwo Jima
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:39:33 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: SoCalPol
Come on now.
Paul is tragically naive regarding the WOT, it is true. And many - I dare say MOST - of his supporters are certifiable loons, lefties and malcontents.
But Paul isn’t a “Hitler wanna be.” At least until recently, he appears to be a man motivated by a love for individual freedom. Again, I think he’s very, very wrong on foreign affairs and miliatary matters. And it is really sad that he can’t see that most of his newfound fellow-travelers don’t believe in liberty at all, but are actually leftists using his anti-war stance as a stalking horse. But let’s not say things that are just not true.
There’s enough to dislike Paul about these days without making stuff up.
Hank
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:44:39 PM PST
by
County Agent Hank Kimball
(Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
To: SoCalPol
That looks very nice, though I have not had time to read it.
Ron Paul has written more. And better. And has a MUCH better website.
Face it, if you are of the opinion that one's positions and principles are not important, it's only what your have gotten enacted that matters, then NO ONE running for president holding conservative or libertarian views is going to have much in the way of political accomplishments to point to.
And THAT is the problem that we are trying to correct and which we will never correct by dismissing people who have "never done anything."
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:48:27 PM PST
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: SoCalPol
I dont give a rats ass about the economy and am sure those jumping from the WTC on 9/11 didnt either. The economy pays the war's bills.
Unfettered economies are the most prolific.
BigGov fetters too much, and BigGov spending fetters all taxpayers.
The war, which you cite as absolving several government excesses, is ostensibly about preserving the American way of life and its existence.
America's identity is its liberties (freedom of religion being one of many).
I am not willing let the Isloma-fascists take our liberties away with one attack, and I do give a rat's behind about the economy.
In WWII, the USA sent Japanese Americans to internment camps. In 2007, we shouldn't make all of America into an internment camp to fight "the war." We shouldn't give away to the FedGov the rights we're supposedly fighting to protect. We should fight threats to life, liberty, and property at home as well as abroad. They are not mutually exclusive.
Ducan spends too much of other peoples' money.
To: tear gas
"As far as I am concerned, the Moore-Norquist bunch can burn in hell. They don't seem to care at all about this country." ------
Sigh.
They care about capitalism. America IS capitalism and capitalism IS America.
I remember when conservatives believed in trade, low taxes, limited government and economic freedom. I'm not sure how it happned, but we've just about lost that.
Without capitalism we may as well be Sweden with better geography. Sadly, we're moving that direction. Between the environmentalists, the protectionists, union luddites, and the I-WANT-FREE-HEALTHCARE crowd, it seems like there's not much consituency left for economic liberty.
Enjoy your free health care.
You're gonna need it.
Hank
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:55:33 PM PST
by
County Agent Hank Kimball
(Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
To: Puddleglum
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posted on
11/25/2007 1:57:13 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
To: SoCalPol
In your dreams. Are you saying your posts put people to sleep???
To: County Agent Hank Kimball
I remember when conservatives believed in trade, low taxes, limited government and economic freedom. I'm not sure how it happned, but we've just about lost that.When did your brand of conservatives quit believing in defending our borders? We have a NATION here. It's NOT JUST a business enterprise.
These Country Club for Growth people you admire would sell their country, their mothers and their souls for an extra buck. They can and should burn in hell.
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posted on
11/25/2007 2:00:44 PM PST
by
tear gas
(Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
To: Kurt Evans
This is why it is tough for a congressman to run for President. They have votes to defend.
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posted on
11/25/2007 2:01:48 PM PST
by
Sunnyflorida
(Peace is the aftermath of victory.)
To: Kurt Evans
So you think No Child Left Behind and the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit are solid, fiscally conservative votes? Of course not, but that doesnt necessarily mean Congressman Hunter isnt a solid, fiscally conservative candidate. As another poster has already noted, selective reporting can show just about any voting record in a bad light. Duncan also recently voted to override the president's veto of the Water Resources Development Act. It was vetoed because it was obscenely bloated with pork. Duncan chose to vote against the prez and pass the bill anway. It was a "safe" vote - most Republicans also voted to override. But it was not a gutsy vote, and certainly not that of a man opposed to government largesse.
To: tear gas
"When did your brand of conservatives quit believing in defending our borders? We have a NATION here. It's NOT JUST a business enterprise." ------
ROFLOL. That's pretty funny. Why are you making stuff up? For the record, I believe in:
-Building a fence across the entire southern border.
-Authorizing border guards to shoot-to-kill all unauthorized border crossers.
-Huge fines on companies hiring illegals.
-English as our official national language.
Now it's your turn. When did you become a socialist?
Hank
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posted on
11/25/2007 2:36:23 PM PST
by
County Agent Hank Kimball
(Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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