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To: robertpaulsen
Lol, that is such bull!

Who rose the question of "What if Congress refuses?" Who?

This is laughable. Congress is not obligated to provide for a militia? They are required by Article I, Section 8:

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

The requirement phrase "To provide for" is used in reference to punishing counterfieters, to raise and maintain a Navy, and to call forth the militia to repel invasion. Were these issues also questioned "What if Congress refuses?"

What is Congress refuses to maintain a Navy? We need an amendment telling them they have to!

Stupidest argument on Freerepublic ever. Tell Murrymom she needs to hand her crown over.

336 posted on 11/30/2007 9:15:54 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"They are required by Article I, Section 8:"

Read the start of Article I, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power to ..." It does not say, "The Congress is required to ..."

"Who rose the question of "What if Congress refuses?" Who?"

The question was raised by George Mason and discussed at the Virginia Ratifying Convention on June 14th, 1788.

"The general government ought, at the same time, to have some such power. But we need not give them power to abolish our militia. If they neglect to arm them, and prescribe proper discipline, they will be of no use."

At the same convention, Patrick Henry said, "But, says the honorable member, Congress will keep the militia armed; or, in other words, they will do their duty. Pardon me if I am too jealous and suspicious to confide in this remote possibility."

"When this power is given up to Congress without limitation or bounds, how will your militia be armed? You trust to chance; for sure I am that that nation which shall trust its liberties in other hands cannot long exist."

"Stupidest argument on Freerepublic ever."

In the future, I suggest you hold off on your conclusion until I respond. A couple of times now you've made an accusation, commented how ridiculous I was, then slinked away like a kicked dog when I totally demolished your statement.

If I can't support what I say, THEN call it stupid.

347 posted on 11/30/2007 9:56:50 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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