The Tragic End of the Bronze Age:
A Virus Makes History
by Tom Slattery
Posted on 11/29/2007 2:53:57 PM PST by blam
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Instead of the Trojan Horse...The Hittite Goat.
Thanks US007. GGG, among other things. :’)
The Tragic End of the Bronze Age:
A Virus Makes History
by Tom Slattery
Is that a good book. I’m looking for some books to buy...I’m out of (good) reading material.
What makes this a particularly interesting study of warfare is the identity of the Arzawa. They were a confederation of related peoples in what later became Lydia in western Asia Minor. The northernmost kingdom of the Arzawans was Wilusa, located neat the Hellespont. At that time Greek still used the letter ‘W’, later dropped. There is a famous story about fighting in Wilusa, or Ilusa, It is remembered as ‘The Iliad’, and Wilusa was located on the Troad, who’s only big city in ancient times is now known as Troy.
Ewe got that right.
LOL
Well, it’s difficult for me to say. I knew Slattery online for a while, on the About History forum. He didn’t seem to have any real evidence for his central thesis, which is that smallpox was the culprit. I have the book, and made an earnest effort to read it, and probably will someday read it, but couldn’t get into it. A search on Amazon used to turn up a dozen or so vanity-published titles by Tom, a variety of subjects.
Emil Forrer was correct. I was first turned onto this (I guess) by Michael Wood, who discusses Forrer and the Hattusas archive in his In Search of the Trojan War.ANE Digest Number 357There is an Akagamunas (Akaiamunas?), apparently the Achaian king, appearing in the hethite correspondence. He was tentatively equivalated, I think by Forrer, with the homeric Agamemnon. Most of Forrers equation are today in low esteem, even if his name is still among the leader hethitologists. There are no objective grounds against this very equation but only natural skepsis. Should one hold his equation, one gets Akaiamunas/Akaiamenon >> Agamemnon. This as Idomeneos and Menelaos (variant of the lawagetas) would thus be just titles, no personal names.
From: Banyai Michael Leonberg
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998
"These vague resemblances do not look like mere chance; Achaiwoi/Ahhiyawa; Alaksandus/Alexandros [Paris]; Wilusa/Wilios; Taruisa/Troia: each in isolation presents problems, but four resemblances is pressing coincidence too far." (p 207, italics in original)Wood also mentions Tawagalawas which IMHO could be Achilles (Ta-Agalawas) and Etewokleweios which IMHO could be Eteocles.
Mycenaean and Hittite Diplomatic Correspondence: Fact and Fiction [ PDF file ]
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill | circa 2004 | H. Craig Melchert
Posted on 05/03/2007 1:59:47 PM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1827901/posts
In Ruin, Symbols on a Stone Hint at a Lost Asian Culture
Source: The New York Times
Published: May 13, 2001 Author: JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Posted on 05/12/2001 11:44:35 PDT by sarcasm
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7 Posted on 05/12/2001 13:05:10 PDT by blam
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Was There a Trojan War?
Archaeology | May/June 2004 | Manfred Korfmann
Posted on 07/30/2004 2:43:38 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1181498/posts
Arzawa
The House of David (not the vanished religious sect by that name) | circa 2002 | David R Ross
Posted on 11/26/2004 10:32:25 PM EST by SunkenCiv
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...Zangger identifies the “Ekwesh” or “Aqaiwasha” with the Achaeans... and the “Denyen” with the Danaoi... alternate names for the Hellenes familiar from Homer, with the further suggestion that the term “Achaeans” derives from a hypothesized ancient Pelasgian word “*acha”, which would mean water. This theory implies that the Philistines were part of this Greek-speaking confederacy.
http://www.halfvalue.com/wiki.jsp?topic=Sea_Peoples
Knowing a little about the Mid Easterner’s love of his sheep, I wonder if you’d class these as deep penetration agents.
No doubt the purpose was to pull the wool over their eyes.
Was this the plague that killed two Hittite kings, Suppiluliumas I and his son Arnuwandas III?
Dangit, nully, there you go again...glad I read down the thread this time. Can we airdrop ‘em?
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