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Posted on 12/06/2007 7:59:05 AM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Problem with the Ron Paul Cult is they only want to read the leftist views on the war.

Please Flatter us and try reading this

Inspector’s Report Bolsters Credibility of Iraqi Intelligence Documents
By Scott Wheeler
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 13, 2004

http://www.cnsnews.com/SpecialReports/archive/200410/SPE20041013a.html


41 posted on 12/06/2007 8:55:25 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: mnehrling
So, if you come into my house and I shoot you ... I attacked you?

WOW!

42 posted on 12/06/2007 8:55:31 AM PST by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our forefathers spinning in their graves)
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To: april15Bendovr

ping


43 posted on 12/06/2007 8:56:58 AM PST by N2Gems
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To: Thomas Jefferson II; mnehrling

No fly zones were established at the end of Desert Storm.
Saddam signed a surrender agreement.
Surrender, see?
Saddam surrendered.


44 posted on 12/06/2007 8:57:00 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II; mnehrling

Lemme guess, if we’d just let Saddam have Kuwait..?


45 posted on 12/06/2007 8:58:10 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: GoLightly

“Iraq attacked us?

Those wearing American uniforms are “us”, so the simple answer to your question is, yes. Iraq attacked us. Read up on everything going on to defend the no fly zones.”

“Us” means the American soil.


46 posted on 12/06/2007 8:58:28 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02

So attacking our troops isn’t an attack.
Fascinating.


47 posted on 12/06/2007 8:59:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
So, if you come into my house and I shoot you ... I attacked you?

If you have authorized me to come into that house via a legal contract (ie, terms of session of hostilities of the first Gulf War) and you shoot me, yes, you attacked me. Iraq agreed to specific terms, such as the no fly zones and inspections when they surrendered in the first Gulf War. You cannot invite someone into your house, then shoot them as a trespasser.

48 posted on 12/06/2007 8:59:26 AM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: tmp02

Our ships at sea are considered U.S. soil.
Was the attack on the U.S.S. Cole an attack on us, in your opinion?


49 posted on 12/06/2007 9:00:05 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: tmp02

I bet if we were to look in Iran and Syria, they’d be buried in the sand.


50 posted on 12/06/2007 9:01:26 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: GoLightly

The Left insisted that we solve the Saddam and Iraq problems with other world leaders via the United Nations. Yes that is the same organization involved in the Oil for Food scandal.What exactly did the U.N. do to stop Saddam in the past? Reference.com defines Resolution 1441: “United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a resolution by the UN Security Council, passed unanimously on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq “a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations” that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284), notably to provide “an accurate full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by Resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles”. Resolution 1441 threatens “serious consequences” if these are not met. It reasserted demands that UN weapons inspectors should have “immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access” to sites of their choosing, in order to ascertain compliance.”

While the left was hoping to cash in on America’s ADD and ADHD problems, they neglect to point out Operation Desert Fox. Described by Reference.com: “Operation Desert Fox was the military codename for a major three-day bombing campaign on Iraqi targets from December 16-December 18, 1998 by the United States and United Kingdom. It was a major flare-up in the Iraq disarmament crisis. The stated goal of the cruise missile and bombing attacks was to “degrade” Saddam Hussein’s ability to produce weapons of mass destruction. In reaction to the attack, three of five permanent members of the UN Security Council (Russia, France, and the People’s Republic of China) called for lifting of the eight-year oil embargo on Iraq, recasting or disbanding UNSCOM, and firing its chairman, Australian diplomat Richard Butler. The strikes came at a particularly difficult time for US President Bill Clinton, as he was impeached on December 19.”


51 posted on 12/06/2007 9:02:36 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: tmp02

So why are our guys capturing leaders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard?

All it takes is for Mahmood to pay off a family, send them here, get them a truck and fertilizer, and there you have your attack.

It doesn’t have to be something big.


52 posted on 12/06/2007 9:04:38 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: mnehrling

“So Iraq wasn’t shooting at our planes?”

They would not have been shooting at us in Iraq if we did not over there.

“Iraq didn’t attempt to assassinate a former president?”

Conspiracy? So was the rest of the world.

“Iraq wasn’t sponsoring, financing and training terrorist organizations?”

No proven links to 911. Even Bush says that the Intell was wrong.

“There were a LOT more attacks than just 9/11 in this greater war.”
For all we know ti is China/Russia that was involved. Bin Laden was in China several times.


53 posted on 12/06/2007 9:07:43 AM PST by tmp02
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To: tmp02

“They would not have been shooting at us in Iraq if we did not over there.”

Back up a bit.
Why were we there?
What happened in 1990 and 1991 to place us there?
What did Saddam sign in 1991 that had us there?
Do you think we should have let Saddam have Kuwait?


54 posted on 12/06/2007 9:09:18 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: mnehrling

Ping.

They were shooting at our planes A LOT. That never gets mentioned because they hit many of them, but our planes were being targeted constantly as they patrolled the no-fly zone.


55 posted on 12/06/2007 9:12:18 AM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: JJTHEBULL; svcw
Yeah, you imagined the part where Iraq had anything to do with it. Or maybe you didnt, you were just slowly brainwashed into believing it.

Is this the new RINO Paul line? Was Saddam really our friend and meant America no harm whatsoever? Did we just "make up" the existence of Salman Pak?

If your answer is that we have been "brainwashed" then I think it's time for you to put down the bong, come out of the basement and get a life.

56 posted on 12/06/2007 9:12:42 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The Ron Paul Cult should just state what their true intentions are here at FR

They should make a statement like this

"We just want to find a way to smoke our pot without any consequences and we don't care about America being attacked as long as were stoned. By the way cut my taxes so I can go buy another bag of weed."

57 posted on 12/06/2007 9:14:25 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: wagglebee

The somnambulist set seems to think that if we’d just ‘left Saddam alone’, everything would have been hunky dory.
Why, if our planes hadn’t been there in the no fly szones, they wouldn’t have been shot at.
Attacks on our troops supposedly aren’t attacks on ‘us’.

The somnambulists truly are the ministry of silly explanations.


58 posted on 12/06/2007 9:16:19 AM PST by Darksheare (Cordite Chipmunk, the Splodent Rodent.)
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To: tmp02
Al Qaeda trained at Salman Pak

Saddam’s Terrorist training camp

59 posted on 12/06/2007 9:17:06 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
"We just want to find a way to smoke our pot without any consequences and we don't care about America being attacked as long as were stoned. By the way cut my taxes so I can go buy another bag of weed."

LMFAO!!!

I'm still waiting to see what happens when people get their November Visa and Mastercard bills this week and find out their deadbeat stoner kids stole their credit card numbers to help fund the RINO Paul "Revolution."

60 posted on 12/06/2007 9:18:15 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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