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(Baltimore) MTA looks at racial role in city bus attack
Baltimore Sun ^ | 7 December 2007 | Michael Dresser

Posted on 12/07/2007 6:51:44 AM PST by Moose4

Maryland Transit Administration Police said last night that they have found no evidence that the severe beating of a 26-year-old woman on a city bus this week was provoked and that they are investigating the attack as a possible racially motivated hate crime.

Nine middle school students have been charged as juveniles with aggravated assault and destruction of property in the Tuesday afternoon attack on a woman and her male companion on the No. 27 bus.

Police said yesterday that they have determined that there were two additional victims in the case - a third passenger and the bus operator who came to his assistance.

Investigators were examining video from a surveillance camera on the bus but had not completed their analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; beating; bus; getwhitey
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To: Bob

No problem, people were just saying that I was making up the “N” word angle, when it was on the radio and website all morning. I know you can’t always believe what is on the radio and “words” are not justification of violence. I was just pointing out what some might say is an insight to what happened. WBAL cited witnesses, yes, they were black too. I know people from Hamden area and some ARE big time racist.


81 posted on 12/07/2007 8:51:26 AM PST by somfphite (We gotta do it, cause no one else will!)
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To: gate2wire

However, John Hopkins Hospital is surrounded by a 10’ fence topped in barbwire.


82 posted on 12/07/2007 8:53:37 AM PST by VanShuyten ("The pilgrims had opened with their Winchesters, and were simply squirting lead into that bush")
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To: Moose4
Update....

Police Probe Attack On Bus As Hate Crime

83 posted on 12/07/2007 8:55:02 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: VanShuyten

The Hospital is in East Balto. This incident occurred near the University.
But you’re correct. The Hospital has some protection because it is in a rough (though improving) part of town.


84 posted on 12/07/2007 8:56:39 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Loyolas Mattman
It might also have somthing to do with the fact that 1 OUT OF 5 people here in northern PG County is an illegal.
85 posted on 12/07/2007 8:58:11 AM PST by VanShuyten ("The pilgrims had opened with their Winchesters, and were simply squirting lead into that bush")
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To: Moose4
"A leading local transit advocate said yesterday that he generally agrees the MTA system is safe but said riders have come to dread certain bus runs called "trippers" that take city youths to and from school. The No. 27 bus on which Tuesday's assault occurred was such a run - with its starting point at the Poole school as classes let out.

"I don't feel unsafe on the buses. I feel uncomfortable on the trippers," said Ed Cohen, president of the Transit Riders Action Council. "The general view of riders who ever happen to board one of those trippers is that they've boarded a rolling hellhole."


86 posted on 12/07/2007 8:58:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: VanShuyten

Indeed, to say nothing of illegal problems they are having over on the other side of the river.


87 posted on 12/07/2007 9:01:22 AM PST by Loyolas Mattman
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To: dmz

thank you for posting that...I love going to Baltimore, most of the neighborhoods are great, some quite posh, and even the so-called dangerous areas of the city are generally fine. It’s a city people... this is a very sad incident indeed, thankfully they have the culprits.


88 posted on 12/07/2007 9:05:46 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: somfphite
Did you read the first paragraph of the article?

Maryland Transit Administration Police said last night that they have found no evidence that the severe beating of a 26-year-old woman on a city bus this week was provoked and that they are investigating the attack as a possible racially motivated hate crime.

89 posted on 12/07/2007 9:10:41 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: gate2wire
Baltimore is no better or worse than any big city.

Baltimore had a murder rate of about 43/100,000 population in 2006. For comparison, the murder rate for Philadelphia and Wash. DC were in the mid 20's/100,000, and San Diego was around 5.4/100,000.

Source: www.city-data.com (great link for info on US cities)

90 posted on 12/07/2007 9:11:58 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Don’t know yet. Don’t know where ANY of these people are from - I don’t even know that the bus route would tell us anything.


91 posted on 12/07/2007 9:12:02 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: somfphite

You are assuming the whites were from Hampden. But we don’t know where any of these people came from. The whites could come from a trailer park outside Balto altogether, for all we know.


92 posted on 12/07/2007 9:13:05 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Ken H

Yes, but generally speaking - general crime, other specifics, etc - they’re all about the same. Details of each year don’t tell me I’d rather be in Philly than Balto, etc. or vice-versa. Common sense says these cities all have the same basic problems.


93 posted on 12/07/2007 9:15:28 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: maica; Freee-dame

Balto ping.


94 posted on 12/07/2007 9:19:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: rogue yam

It’s worse than Houston. I think the problem is as much or more from riding the citybus as the neighborhood. I’ve only ridden the bus a few times here, but several of those times a bunch of middle schoolers have gotten on and made me very uncomfortable. And they weren’t even threatening me, just loud, tough looking, aggressive body language...

I think I can sense what happened. The kids were somewhat mildly harrassing this girl, telling her all the seats were taken, then she sat down anyway, and one of them probably said who does this white b!tch think she is, and then it was off to the races.


95 posted on 12/07/2007 9:27:46 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Moose4

The buses in the Washington & Baltimore transit system are not safe for any white person to use.


96 posted on 12/07/2007 9:28:40 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Pyro7480

The Examiner is reporting that some Poole Middle School students who were on the Number 27 bus at around 3 on Tuesday say the 26-year-old woman started the fight and used the “N” word.

The students say the woman and her boyfriend started the fight that left the woman with broken bones in her left eye socket and other injuries to her head.

One of students who rides that bus says the woman used the “N” word and punched one of the students riding the bus.


97 posted on 12/07/2007 9:45:41 AM PST by somfphite (We gotta do it, cause no one else will!)
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To: somfphite

We’ll see what the video footage actually shows.


98 posted on 12/07/2007 9:47:17 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: somfphite

“The students say the woman and her boyfriend started the fight...”

Yeah, a couple of adults had nothing better to do than start a fight on a Baltimore city bus with a pack of teenage thugs.


99 posted on 12/07/2007 9:58:32 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: somfphite

You keep repeating these bits of info, but not what’s in the Sun article right here that is currently the most recent:

“Greene said that at the time the incident reports were taken, no child reported any spitting or knife being pulled. Gavrilis said the operator hadn’t mentioned any provocation.”

Sounds to me that the media were screwing it up again in a breathless attempt to “get it out 1st”, instead of getting it right. Later reports say the PARENTS claimed these things - and this note about the incident reports would seem to bolster that.


100 posted on 12/07/2007 10:10:58 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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