Posted on 12/13/2007 7:13:48 AM PST by tlb
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y.) accuses Senate Democratic leaders of developing "Stockholm syndrome," showing sympathy to their Republican captors by caving in on legislation.
"If there's going to be a filibuster, let's hear the damn filibuster," Rangel fumed. "Let's fight this damned thing out."
House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) called it a "hold and fold" strategy: Senate Republicans put a "hold" on Democratic bills, and Senate Democratic leaders promptly fold their tents.
Asked about his decision on government funding, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey (D-Wis.) groused to the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call: "I'll tell you how soon I will make a decision when I know how soon the Senate sells us out."
Reid, in turn, has taken to the Senate floor to criticize what he called the speaker's "iron hand" style of governance.
Now, as Congress struggles to adjourn for Christmas, relations between House Democrats and their colleagues in
The 60-vote threshold has become the flashpoint for the intramural Democratic dispute.
Senate Democrats contend that their House counterparts simply do not understand the modern Senate when they badger Reid about holding all-night filibusters. In a series of 20th-century changes, Senate filibusters became a thing of the past. Rules pushed by senators seeking to pass civil rights legislation allow filibusters to be thwarted if 60 or more members vote to cut off the debate. As long as the minority party has 41 votes, it no longer has to hold the floor and talk a bill to death.
Republicans, who spent 12 years in similar battles, are just enjoying the spectacle.
"Just let 'em stew for a while," said soon-to-retire Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott (R-Miss.), a veteran of the GOP's own squabbles.
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Hey Retart, you're in the majority. Read the newspapers.
I would LOVE to see a real filibuster!!
Democrats are blocking all of Bush's judges now, the same as they did with all Rs plans before 2006. They assumed that the Rs would just lay down and let the socialism roll ... Republicans decided to payback the obstruction with obstruction.
“Democrats Blaming Each Other For Failures”
And they are all right.
Interesting from the WaPo. Thanks for posting.
The religous ‘Haj” of a democrat is to seek out the things that work - and break them.
It may not be a popular opinion to hold right now, but I still believe if you are going to filibuster then require a real filibuster, the 60 vote rule is stupid.
The dems should play the race card. It is the only card in their hand.
The fact DeWine helped block it is the reason I voted to fire his ass here in Ohio.
No, the Rats just don't like it when the tables are turned on them
Yeah, just brilliant. Thanks for giving us Sherrod.
I hate it when I come to a thread late and somebody has already used my reply.
‘Yeah, just brilliant. Thanks for giving us Sherrod.’
Ohio’s GOP was totally and complete corrupt. DeWine was going down either way. To suggest its ‘my fault’ the Ohio GOP made it impossible for anyone to support it, given the conviction record of our punk Governor’ Bob ‘Tax Em!’ Taft, the corruption of two other House Reps, the imploding Ohio economy, the 10% unemployment rate, is absurd, but typical of your average GOP kool aid drinker.
Sorry, I won’t ever vote for a RINO. Let alone one as arrogant as Mikey DeWine, a prissy little man who’s sense of self entitlement was only exceeded by his infamous arrogance in dealing with constituents.
I guarantee you Mikey DeWine to this day blames everything, and everybody under the sun except HIMSELF and the OHIO GOP for his getting fired by a HUGE MARGIN.
I Guarantee it.
That you would blame the voters like me for HIS incompetence isn’t surprising. Some eat drink and think GOP right or wrong.
I’m not one of them, and most of my fellow Buckeye’s agree with me. Then again, we live here....
What do they expect, they have no leadership, no direction, no answers, no plans and are unable to speak for themselves.
JUST A BUNCH OF LOSERS, THAT’S WHY THEY ARE CALLED “DUMB-O-CRATS”.
Ohio unemployment rate in 2006 was 5.2 percent not ten percent. But you are right about DeWine, he lost because he basically didn’t campaign. His sense of entitlement led him to think he could mail it in. He didn’t account for the strength of Brown in the degenerate Lorain and Cuyahoga precincts where he had been a safe incumbent for years.
Well said. Taft was an absolute joke and he may end up helping turn this state to the Dems in the Presidential election with his disasterous run as Govenor...Blackwell didn't have a chance.
The dems had every reason to think they'd sail into power in 2008. With the turnaround in Iraq, they are obviously UPSET about the US winning.
The Dems are proving to be their own worst enemy for a simple reason: their success depends on our failure.
‘Ohio unemployment rate in 2006 was 5.2 percent not ten percent. But you are right about DeWine, he lost because he basically didnt campaign. His sense of entitlement led him to think he could mail it in. He didnt account for the strength of Brown in the degenerate Lorain and Cuyahoga precincts where he had been a safe incumbent for years.’
It was 10 percent in the rural regions, thats I’m certain of.
That said, the only other thing I’ll add is DeWine seriously misunderstood the impact of his being in the Gang of Fourteen around here.
‘Well said. Taft was an absolute joke and he may end up helping turn this state to the Dems in the Presidential election with his disasterous run as Govenor...Blackwell didn’t have a chance.’
Blackwell is the only reason I changed my lifelong status as a registered Independent. I got so angry watching those Jim Petro adds - overtly racist to say the least - I had to support Blackwell in the primary.
The Ohio Country Club Republicans torpedo’d Blackwell. They would rather lose the Governor’s Mansion than allow him to replace Taft.
At this point, the only Republican in this state I respect is Portman.
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