Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have worked in energy conservation since the Jimmy Carter farce. In my opinion, this article and all your comments concerning the Pres. and this program are a bunch of B.S.

There is many of dime that can be saved. The proof will be in the people who implement this program and not in the mandates in the law. If the automakers do it the cheap way then there is some truth to the article. Automakers have the technology to meet the mileage requirements. Incandescent lamps are a thing of the past. Where it has been important to save money, flourescent, HPS, MV and quarts have replaced these lamps long ago. We did this at our facilities more than 20 years ago. It is time that down home rural USA got off the pot and started following the example.

The proof will be in the pudding not in the law itself. Don’t bash a President for doing the right thing that should have been done long ago.

Shame on all of you.

12 posted on 12/19/2007 10:36:06 AM PST by tryon1ja
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: tryon1ja

None of this stuff is within the legitimate constitutional authority of the federal government.


13 posted on 12/19/2007 10:39:31 AM PST by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


14 posted on 12/19/2007 10:42:40 AM PST by Little_GTO
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

Shame on you for supporting the destruction of economic freedom. Economic freedom has done more to alleviate human suffering that banning light-bulbs, cars, or whatever en vogue form of central government planning you support.


19 posted on 12/19/2007 10:48:44 AM PST by mbs6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

Sorry, you’re a nanny-stater.

I’m sticking with incandescents, thanks. They don’t give me headaches, and they don’t oscillate.

Tell you what - how about we let the market decide, m’kay?

By the way, a bag of Fritos just doubled in price, which pisses me off, and my car pings from the 10% ethanol in the fuel I HAVE to buy.

Buy a magazine, find a corner, and regulate yourself, but leave the rest of us be.


30 posted on 12/19/2007 11:26:53 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

We will never be able to conserve our way into using less energy. We have a growing population that is growing more affluent each and every year. New electronics are invented all the time, all using electricity. The ONLY affects of stupid laws like this one are to infringe upon our liberties and create market distortions, forcing people to buy what they don’t really want.


31 posted on 12/19/2007 11:28:21 AM PST by Bastiat_Fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja
Perhaps you will benefit by the ridiculous mandates in this bill. You favor central planning. This bill is just a Soviet style central plan. I can remember the laughs after each Soviet central plan was made. No one thought that the central plans could be achieved. The market can find the solutions demanded by consumers, not central planners. When fuel and energy prices are high, substitutes and other measures will be found. The market will determine winners and losers by the collection of individual choices of consumers and producers.

These mandates will lead to boondoggles. How do these wise central planners know how much bio fuels should be used in our fuel supply 20 years in the future? Why do we need massive subsidies and mandates when the prices of fuel and energy are so high? How do these wise central planners know which technologies will be appropriate?

Bush knows better about energy policy. I cannot believe that he would sign such a monstrous bill. Shame on Republicans for promoting this sham.

34 posted on 12/19/2007 11:42:12 AM PST by businessprofessor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

B.S., eh?

Does this Bill allow the streamlining of new refineries? New nuclear power stations? Cut away the red tape to replace and/or renew the power grid infrastructure? Remove the restrictions that put nearly all of our own oil and coal off limits to extraction?

No. It does none of that. Instead, it merely continues and reinforces the same imbecile dem party enviro-nazi schemes and sloganworthy pop-culture cures that have been shown through hard experience not to work. In fact, in nearly all cases they make matters worse.

President Bush has just stabbed us all in the back again.


35 posted on 12/19/2007 11:47:54 AM PST by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

Government planners can never ever do things as well as a capitalist free market economy.

Plus this is just wrong. Government has no right to tell us what kind of lightbulb we can put in our homes. Where in the constitution is this? Are they going to send in the federal police to check to see if we have the right kind of lightbulbs. Plus it’s getting colder not warmer as the global warming hoax says it’s supposed to be getting warmer ( most of the country is freezing if you haven’t noticed).

Plus these governemnt idiots messed up again. It’s because of this liberal media socialist hoax, Global warming that they are mandating us to change our lightbulbs. and These new lightbulbs have mercury in them so if one breaks good luck in cleaning that up and not poisoning your family (government planning at work).

Plus many workmen use those big f-350 trucks . Are they now supposed to drive these little tiny cars to haul the thing they need to keep our economy going? What’s going to happen to these full sized trucks? Socialism has never worked.

We need smaller government, less taxes, less government. less laws. Capitalism works. government doesn’t .

They have so many laws now that anything we do or don’t do is bound to break some laws so that we are all criminals now and the government can crack down on all of us as is the intent. this is about increasing government power. this is not what America was created to be or is intended to be. The constitution and founding fathers created a very limited government. These politician morons have completely violated the constitution and are crazed with power. America should be about freedom. And guess what freedom works in the economy too . government regulations, laws and planning don’t work and just cripple private industry.


38 posted on 12/19/2007 12:34:50 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

The free market should dictate energy use and policy, NOT the Government! The only thing this sorry piece of crap legislation brings us is mors control over our lives! If you want to save energy, use common sense, not the heavy hand of Government! My truck has an ignition switch, and everything in my house can be unplugged or turned off. I don’t need the “helping hand” of Government to save energy in my personal life!!


43 posted on 12/19/2007 1:25:25 PM PST by wjcsux (Islam: The religion of choice for those who are too stupid for Scientology)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja
this article and all your comments concerning the Pres. and this program are a bunch of B.S.

I see you enjoy being told what to do....

46 posted on 12/19/2007 3:30:35 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja
Incandescent lamps are a thing of the past.

Present and future as well. If I want to use an incandescent light bulb until the day I die, that is my business, and noone else's. It is certainly not the business of a bunch of corrupt idiots in Washington D.C.

My house in every room has the large recessed 90 incandescent bulbs. I have 45 in my house. To replace them at $64 each would cost almost $3000 dollars. No way. I guess I will have to stock up on them for a lifetime supply or go somewhere else to get them like I had to for my toilets (I had to go to Canada to get decent toilets for my house because the new 1.5 Gallon toilets totally suck, thanks to GWs dad).

This whole thing is nothing but a corrupt bill forcing us to buy more expensive crap that they invested in and nobody wanted because they suck so bad, kind of like HDTV.
62 posted on 12/19/2007 4:46:44 PM PST by microgood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

-try using dimmer switch on a flourecent light bulb, dumbass.

Furthermore it’s none of your damn business, or the federal government either, if I want to drive a gas hog, or use incandecent light bulbs, which I prefer to have in my home.


72 posted on 12/19/2007 6:31:13 PM PST by FBD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

As hubby said earlier tonight, “We may as well be (pooping) upriver.” This was in reference to the insane corn-based ethanol mandate in this horrible legislation. You don’t burn FOOD for fuel.


104 posted on 12/20/2007 10:58:32 PM PST by petitfour
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja

and the US Federal Govt, the largest owner of buildings in the world does very little to make those buildings energy efficient.
-The building are not built tight enough, there is far too much energy wasted due to air infiltration.
-There is NO reason to AC any federal building in DOE climate zones 5-7
-There is No reason to heat any federal building in DOE climate zones 1,2
Point is, before the government starts to mandate energy efficiency for the private sector it needs to get it’s own house in order.


107 posted on 12/21/2007 7:20:26 AM PST by mrmargaritaville
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

To: tryon1ja
And what about the expense of replacing massive numbers of chandeliers and sconces that are used residentially and commercially? And those fluorescent lights are going to create ambiance? What about stage lights--it will be fun to watch a play in fluorescent glow. What about people who need the brightness of 100-watt bulbs to read because they are older and don't see as well in the dim-watted rooms with 60-watt bulbs? What about the ability to dim a light for night-light use? What about appliance bulbs that light microwaves and dryers? If this was such a great idea and such a savings, the marketplace would have been going that direction in the first place.

I've bought those pig-tailed lights for good money with the expectation of lasting years. They didn't even last months. Slightly longer than my other bulbs--but not 60x longer as their price was 60 times greater. And the glow was not worth the difference.

116 posted on 12/21/2007 7:24:32 PM PST by MHT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson