Hm. I see they haven't lost their taste for fascism. Financing the Nazi's and after all this time still financing a radical group with racist overtones....
Now I remember why I'll never own a Ford. Thanks.
Posted on 12/19/2007 2:12:32 PM PST by Westlander
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You can't be serious. Stormfront is one of the ugliest racist sites on the net and that is your excuse? He might be picked on because of donations from other sites?
Back when David Duke ran for the Louisiana house, in a 2 Republican candidate runoff, he and his ideology was condemned by both RR and Bush I. They being busy at the time, who did they send to La to campaign for Dukes Republican opponent, GWB. Probably his first solo political appearance. A losing effort, but the attempts to slime RR, either of the Bushes, or the GOP with neonazi support doesn’t fly. Ron Paul excepted.
Bush denounced the unsolicited endorsement.
And so did RP.
Was that in response to something I'd said, or did a random sentence generator just kick that out? The neo-Stalinists over at Daily Kos are anything but apathetic.
That’s a really clever title.
Agreed. (Though would hope that the ‘silent majority’ of Republicans and conservatives became a lot more vocal about it).
No he accepted a donation from someone clicking on a donate button most likely. What? You plan on requiring a check on every person that donates to any campaign? Do you realize how much that would cost? Who is going to decide what equates 'good' and 'bad' speech? You? Me?
There are positions that other candidates hold that I disagree with. Shall I have the right to demand they return the money to those supporters? Do you even see how ridiculous this position could get very quickly? Unfortunately it has gotten that way almost already hasn't it? And it is exactly what Dr. Paul says it is. Pandering.
Of course you don't actually care, you have a predisposition against Dr. Paul so by default he must support racism. That about the gist of it?
True, but that silent majority doesn't know about it, which is fine. Condemnation becomes important if the media picks it up. Fortunately they haven't, and to the extent they have they haven't hung it on the GOP. The objective here has nothing to do with Paul, but everything to do with legitimizing the ideology of hate. Which won't happen.
Stormfront is ok with you?
“If he gave the money back, he’d be accused of giving $500 to some Nazi (and that would technically be true).”
So give the money to the NAACP or some jewish charity. That would really send a message to the neo-nazis.
“Why would someone from Stormfront give money to Paul, anyway?”
Simple. The federal government is their biggest enemy. For example, the IRS is always on their butt. Ron Paul is going to abolish the IRS. They don’t like Israel and Ron Paul is going to do away with aid to Israel.
Woah, I didn’t notice that until after I posted...sorry about that. I’m gonna re-post:
His motivations are different. He’s not motivated by anti-Semitism - he opposes ANY aid to ANY other country, and believes in putting America first. White supremacists specifically don’t want to aid or abet Israel, not any other country as Ron Paul does. It’s similar to how he may agree with leftists on the war, but for different reasons - he opposes ANY interventionist foreign policy, and wouldn’t support their pet causes like Darfur.
No billbears, that not what happened, and you know that perfectly well
You're right Jean, he's a bad guy. I wouldn't want him, or many other Paul supporters in my camp,
Billbears, Don Black, bio below, isn't someone who clicked on a link. Though plenty do, Stormfront and others have Ron Paul donation links. Which Paul could block, but doesn't.
Don Black is a prominent neonazi/whitenationalist, pick whatever term you want for a Jewhating racist.
Paul didn't have to reasearch anything, it was pointed out by the media. Paul said fine.
This isn't an issue of good or bad speech. Other than to the paulistinians who don't want the issue raised.
If Paul wants $$$$$ from the hate community, great, guess what, I get to criticize Paul for pandering to the hate community.
Did I leave out contributions from felons?
I think that stinks too. What politician takes contributions form felons who have attempted to overthrow a government. Your boy is a low as Hilliary. I'd say lower, but she's a lot more skilled keeping these things under wraps.
I know, Paul figured Black and his KKK pals might be candidates for one of those Letters of Marque Ron wanted to issue. That much be it.
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Don Black (born July 28, 1953) is an American white nationalist neo-Nazi. He is the founder and current webmaster of the "Stormfront" forum and former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). He was convicted in 1981 for attempted armed overthrow of the Dominican government in violation of the U.S. Neutrality Act.
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Black was born In Athens, Alabama, and became an activist at an early age when he began passing out racially charged newspapers White Power and the Thunderbolt at his high school. This led to a decision by the local school board to ban the distribution of political literature. Black countered by mailing literature to student addresses obtained from school handbooks. He said in an interview that growing up in the South during the turmoil of the civil rights movement made him aware from a White political perspective. [1]
In the summer of 1970, after his junior year at Athens High School, Black traveled to Savannah, Georgia, to work on the gubernatorial campaign of J.B. Stoner, a segregationist and leader of the National States' Rights Party (NSRP). It was in this election that Jimmy Carter won the Georgia governorship. Don Black was asked to obtain a copy of the NSRP membership list by Robert Lloyd, a leader of the National Socialist White People's Party, formerly known as the American Nazi Party. [2] At the time, Black was a member of the Party's youth branch, the National Socialist Youth Movement.
Also working on the Stoner campaign was Jerry Ray, the brother of Martin Luther King's assassin James Earl Ray. On July 25, 1970, Jerry Ray shot Black (who was 16 at the time) in the chest with a .38-caliber hollow-point bullet to stop him from taking files from Stoner's campaign office. Ray was acquitted of all charges by claiming at trial that he saw Black reaching for a weapon.[3] Black quickly recovered from his wounds and was able to join his party comrades in their annual Labor Day rally on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. He finished his senior year at Madison Academy, an all-White private school in Huntsville.
After high school, Black attended the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa majoring in political science. He took Army ROTC classes and finished the basic program. Later he was denied participation in the advance programs due to his politics.
Black joined the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in 1975, one year after David Duke took over the organization. He moved to Birmingham to become the group's state organizer. After the resignation of Duke in 1978, Black became Grand Wizard, or national director, of the Klan. He ran for mayor of Birmingham in 1979 and received 2 percent of the vote.
On April 27, 1981, Black and nine other would-be mercenaries - many recruited from Klan affiliated organizations - were arrested in New Orleans as they prepared to board a boat stocked with weapons and ammunition to invade the island nation Dominica in what they would call Operation Red Dog. However, the local media would label the botched attempt the "Bayou of Pigs,"; a play on words for the unsuccessful 1961 "Bay of Pigs" invasion of Cuba.
Black tried to spin the invasion as an attempt to set up an anti-communist regime later saying, "What we were doing was in the best interests of the United States and its security in the hemisphere, and we feel betrayed by our own government," [4] The invasion would have restored former prime minister Patrick John to the mostly Black Caribbean island. Prosecutors said the real purpose for the invasion would have been to setup tourist, gambling, offshore banking, and timber logging operations on the impoverished island.
Black was sentenced to three years in prison for his role in the attempted invasion and his violation of the Neutrality Act. He was released in 1984, having served his sentence in a federal prison in Texas. During his time in federal prison Black took computer programing classes which ironically led him to establish Stormfront on the Internet years later. [5]
In 1986 Black rethought his commitment to the KKK. Resigning from the group in 1987, he said: "I concluded the Klan could never be a viable political movement again. It had a reputation for random and senseless violence which it could never overcome. There were several events around that time that reinforced that opinion."
He tried once again running for office in Alabama, this time as a Populist Party US Senate candidate.
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In 1995, Black founded Stormfront becoming one of the first white nationalists on the Internet. Stormfront featured the writings of William Luther Pierce and David Duke, as well as works by the Institute for Historical Review. Initially, along with these articles, Stormfront housed a library of white pride, neo-Nazi, and skinhead graphics for downloading, and a number of links to other white nationalist websites.
In 2004, Black joined in signing the New Orleans Protocol on behalf of Stormfront. The New Orleans Protocol seeks to "mainstream" White Nationalism by reducing violence and internecine warfare, and was written by David Duke.
Black has also attended meetings of the Council of Conservative Citizens in the 1990s and 2004. ISBN 0-415-94922-X Don Black again attended CCC meetings in 2005, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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Regardless of what I think of Ron Paul, I always applaud impoverishing evil people. If a KKK type is out $500, good.
Your definition of racism is far too broad to be meaningful. Not to mention rigged to make non-white racism appear to be defensive.
Can’t we just say that Stormfront, the KKK, La Raza, the SPLC, and other hate groups should be shunned?
Paul could do a lot of good by giving back the Stormfront money. Or better yet, giving it to charity (if that’s legal under campaign finance rules).
This guy's past is pretty specific, see post 133, as are the backgounds of a few of other Paul supporters. No one expects him to vet every single contribution, this one isn't a "generic" click from a link on Stormfront (which Paul should block).
He could do either as I understand the law, send it back or make a contribution. Either would make a statement, doing nothing makes a statement as well. 133
I agree. You can’t always analyze every penny your campaign receives, but this Stormfront contributor’s record is about as bad as they come. Not to mention that he’s an idiot. I couldn’t help but laugh when I read that he tried to overthrow the Dominican government. Talk about delusions of grandeur! Was he planning to be another Castro or something?
Keep laughing. Paul takes his money, yet criticizes RR's invasion of Grenada. Go figure.
Thank you.
For what it's worth, Ron Paul has refused to participate in the congressional pension system and has denounced it as an unwarranted perk.
I don't think Ron Paul should give money to neo-Nazis. What's this doing in Breaking News?
Michael Moore pulled one of these stunts for one of his books. I think he formed a group called "Satanists for Buchanan" and then blabbered on self-righteously that their donation was never returned.
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