[antinomian]

"They had rebelled before. And had won before. The South only accomplished half of that."

True, but winning or losing says nothing about the justice of the cause. They were justified in both cases. To believe otherwise is to deny the principle of self government.

[Non-Sequitur]

True, but winning or losing says nothing about the justice of the cause.

No, but truly just causes are worth fighting for until victory is achieved. Obviously the Southern rebellion wasn't one of those.

To believe otherwise is to deny the principle of self government.

The Southern states had self government, and also had a disproportionate level of influence in the federal government. But that wasn't enough for them.

[barb-tex]

Well, I have won, and I have lost, winning is better.
barbra ann