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To: Star Traveler

And if the Mormons get the idea they are pushed out because of their religion, you’re not going to have their help with whomever you want to put in.

For their view, read ... http://stopbigots.com/


61 posted on 01/04/2008 1:03:42 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

You said — “And if the Mormons get the idea they are pushed out because of their religion, you’re not going to have their help with whomever you want to put in.”

Well, do you think by now that they’ve finally got the idea that Evangelical Christians are not about to vote for a cult member for President of the United States? I hope so, because it will always be that way.

The problem that some of the Mormons have, is that they may be believing their own propaganda, when they try to tell other basic, historic and foundational Christians that *they* (i.e., the Mormons) are actually “Christians” themselves — and then in the next breath, explain how the Christians lost the “true Gospel” and how Joseph Smith has restored that lost Gospel.

Oh yeah, like that’s going to fly over ya, like a lead balloon.

I mean if the Mormons are believing their own propaganda that they are actually a church that teaches basic, historic and foundational Christianity — then they are really big fools. Of course they know that their church does not teach that same stuff. They know that very well. They’re just hoping other basic, historic, foundational Christians don’t know that.

What do they expect, when they try to tell such a false story that they actually teach the same kind of doctrines as the other basic, historic and foundational Christian churches do. Of course the Evangelicals are not going to let a group that lies like that — have one of their members become President. I mean, if they cannot even tell the truth about their own church, what do they expect we’re going to think of a Mormon candidate. Come on now..., do they think Evangelicals are that dumb??!

Regards,
Star Traveler


66 posted on 01/04/2008 1:16:52 AM PST by Star Traveler
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To: broncobilly; P-Marlowe; Colofornian; colorcountry; Utah Binger; JRochelle; Elsie; FastCoyote; ...
And if the Mormons get the idea they are pushed out because of their religion, you’re not going to have their help with whomever you want to put in.

From your website link: Given current American voting trends and demographics, he would have no chance. If the Huckster is nominated, the swing states of Nevada (about 10% Mormon), Oregon (4%) and New Mexico (4%) will swing to the Democrats.

Oregon going democrat? What a surprise! NM is sewed up for the dems by Richardson's dem leglislatiure getting rid of voting machines and voter ID. Nevada? 10%? Nevada is nearly the fastest growing state, and 10% is not going to mean much.

Besides losing swing states in 2008, Republicans could also lose solidly red states if they embrace the bigot for president. What would losing Idaho (15%), Utah (1,800,000 Mormons), and Arizona (6%) (McCain's mom talking at the 5 minute mark of this video demonstrates her bigoted bias...the apple doesn't fall far from the tree)

Arizona is growing rapidly and 6% is not going to be the determining factor, Utah and Idaho don't have that many electoral votes

Defections of Mormons in Colorado (131,000), California (750,000) or Washington (250,000) might cost a few Republican congressional seats (Dave Reichert R-WA, not a Mormon, but was strongly supported financially and with boots on the ground by Mormons, won re-election to a nobody by only a few votes) or a senate seat (Sen Smith R- OR, a Mormon) along the way. Losing the most-solidly Republican block in the country, the Mormons, or even putting it in play, would turn red states blue and put the Republican Party back into permanent minority status.

IMO, your website gives mormons a lot more electoral power than they have in actuality, and the question is still, WHERE DO THEY GO... TO THE DEMS? Mormons staying home will not affect the Republicans as much as evangelicals staying home, and the turnout in Iowa is indicative of that fact.

194 posted on 01/04/2008 9:56:04 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mitt willingly gives up his personal freedoms to his church..why would he protect YOURS!)
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To: broncobilly

Romney ran negative ads against Huckabee. Huckabee ran an ad wishing everybody Merry Christmas. Huckabee made a responding negative ad but then decided not to show it. I’ve been in campaigns and would give odds that it was Rollins that wanted to hit back and hard and that Huckabee to his credit decided at the last minute not to. I’m not a Huckabee supporter but I don’t think the anger against Huckabee is justified. It’s just sour grapes. The problem is this: Romney has supported homosexual scoutmasters, abortion, homosexual partnership rights and the like. He flip-flopped to try to become President (no core values). So in addition to the guys like me that won’t vote for a Mormon for President because I think Mormonism is a cult and a terrible twisting of the truth there are way more people that just don’t like Romney’s flip-flops. Throw in the fact that Romney comes across as a Ken doll, plastic and phony, and without a good sense of humor, especially compared to Huckabee, and you get a guy that is crushed in the Republican primaries. Romney, with the resume and all the money in the world, isn’t that great a candidate.

Thompson is the path away from chaos in my opinion.


200 posted on 01/04/2008 10:26:58 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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