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Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided" focus group members (September 5 vs January 6)
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Posted on 01/06/2008 11:41:17 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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To: AKSurprise
Maybe he isn't a plant, but how representative do you think that group really is if they use the same guys every time, and those people prefer the same candidate every time while remaining "undecided".

At the very least, it's a shoddy excuse for political "journalism", which wouldn't be a first for Fox.
41 posted on 01/07/2008 4:57:57 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Luntz may have a dog in the Republican race that he wants to promote, but he’s not a Democrat. He used to advise Gingrich and other Republicans, and he supposed to be the man who came up with the term “death tax” to refer to the estate tax.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 5:01:42 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Onerom99
""This needs to be EXPOSED!!!"

It just has been and it's going to take off like WILDFIRE!! :O)

43 posted on 01/07/2008 5:03:17 AM PST by Old Badger (Both houses of Congress: Clean sweep-down Fore and Aft!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m guessing that’s not him, but we did have an undecided Freeper make one of Luntz’ focus groups, and he reported that at the end Luntz said he loved what he said, and would like to have him back.

I can’t remember who it was though.


44 posted on 01/07/2008 5:18:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture

BTW, it’s not interesting that they same guy was there twice — the question is did he say he had committed by the end of the previous debate?


45 posted on 01/07/2008 5:19:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mojave

Does the september transcript show him saying he was for Romney at the end of the debate?


46 posted on 01/07/2008 5:21:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I nearly burst my cork when Luntz called his focus group “A sophisticated group”. These folks, idiots all, were impressed by all the wrong things (flash over substance, mostly). They were about as sophisticated as Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.
47 posted on 01/07/2008 5:23:55 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: The Pack Knight

He was for McCain last time, and now he was an undecided. Did he actually end up for Romney at the end?

Both debates were in New Hampshire, so it’s not like they brought him in from another state.

If he was articulate in the first focus group, and was undecided, Luntz would bring him back.


48 posted on 01/07/2008 5:24:04 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Awesome catch!!....the only thing he appears UNDECIDED about is whether to sit in the front or middle...lol


49 posted on 01/07/2008 5:27:40 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
This is a great example of RDS.

In november, when Luntz' focus group picked Thompson, the focus group was the best thing since sliced bread.

It's a shame how every supposedly rational view on an issue, personality, or position is now decided on a simple binary scale here -- based solely on how it relates to Fred Thompson.

50 posted on 01/07/2008 5:28:33 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; My Favorite Headache
Found it. Freeper in the Luntz Focus Group
51 posted on 01/07/2008 5:36:14 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The Pack Knight

“Luntz may have a dog in the Republican race that he wants to promote, but he’s not a Democrat.”

Still, there’s some uncertainty. I lean toward believing Luntz is a liberal, based on the way he conducts this “focus group” in order to deceptively influence public opinion against the real conservatives and also because of his book Words that Work.

As I’ve heard Luntz describe it, the basic premise of his book peddles the importance of language. This premise is right in line with basic leftist ideology which as I understand it is largely dependent on the notion that language has the power to “create” reality.


52 posted on 01/07/2008 5:45:42 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: The Pack Knight
Maybe he isn't a plant, but how representative do you think that group really is if they use the same guys every time, and those people prefer the same candidate every time while remaining "undecided".

Exactly. We are given the impression that Luntz sort of pulls these folks aside at random. This is clearly not the case.
53 posted on 01/07/2008 5:45:53 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: EmilyGeiger

Thanks!


54 posted on 01/07/2008 5:46:42 AM PST by silent_jonny (Huckabee—THE DNC’S CHOICE)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
As usual, you are wrong.

This is not about who supported who after the debates, it's about planting the same people to promote a specific agenda for a particular candidate.

The Dims do it, as we have seen Hitlery plant her own questions to her audience as well as invade the Repub debates, and she got caught. Now, we have Luntz's planted 'undecideds' getting caught.

That is the issue.

55 posted on 01/07/2008 5:58:55 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: The Pack Knight

He is a luntz-o-crat... out for himself and he is a liberal.

LLS


56 posted on 01/07/2008 6:29:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

It is beyond me how Luntz could be so stupid.

His credibility as a pollster depends at a minimum on the appearance of neutrality.


57 posted on 01/07/2008 6:31:14 AM PST by underbyte
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Doh!


58 posted on 01/07/2008 6:40:14 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: the irate magistrate
BTW, check out the windows in the back of the room. I wonder who’s signs are those in the windows?

From what I saw last night, those signs were for Ron Paul.

59 posted on 01/07/2008 6:47:15 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Pistolshot

As someone else pointed out, the person in the picture here was promoting McCain the last time.

I can’t watch the full video for this one, so I don’t know, but some have said at the end he was for Romney this time, although nobody’s posted a transcript or quote so I don’t know if that’s just people saying things without knowing.

But it does seem that he isn’t promoting a “specific agenda for a particular candidate”, if he was for McCain in september and is for Romney now.


60 posted on 01/07/2008 6:53:28 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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