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Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | January 7, 2008 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 01/09/2008 7:56:30 PM PST by fallingwater

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To: fallingwater

Looks like the Clinton slime machine is ratcheting it up another notch or two.


41 posted on 01/09/2008 9:55:51 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: benldguy
"Man, I was wondering when someone would point out that he was an apostate!"

I don't think he is seen as an apostate - not in Indonesia, the country with the largest muslim population in the world:

Barack Obama and the Truth.Tracking Down Obama in Indonesia.link.

One thing for certain, you will NOT see Obama with his hand over his heart. All you will see is his CROTCH SALUTE!

One must ask, Is Obama simply following this advice from "Ask the Imam?"

Question: Could we sing national anthem and say the plegde of allegience to the secular state while the flag is being raised up?

Answer: As Muslims, our pledge of allegiance is only to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). However, as Muslims in a non-Muslim state, we are obliged to follow the laws of the country which are not contrary to Shari’ah.

The allegiance of pledge by singing the national anthem of a secular state which has many un-Islamic laws, for example, legalising homosexuality, lesbianism, pornography, etc. is not permissible.

And Allah Taãla Knows Best. Was salaam Mufti Ebrahim Desai

SEE THE VIDEO. LINK.

42 posted on 01/09/2008 10:01:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: advertising guy

The trash is already coming from the most secret hidden place in The Hillary Clinton campaign, and they will make it look like Republicans are making an issue of it.


43 posted on 01/09/2008 10:04:41 PM PST by political1
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To: fallingwater

The worst thing I can say about Obama is he’s a card-carrying Democrat. By definition that means he believes in Al Gore’s global warming hoax, amnesty for illegal aliens, and having unelected judges make laws. However, Obama is the best person the insane Democrats have.


44 posted on 01/09/2008 10:05:14 PM PST by devere
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To: AlaskaErik

Read my comments. The information I am posting re Obama is out there for anyone to find. And btw, I am an Australian and couldn’t be FURTHER REMOVED FROM THE CLINTON SLIME MACHINE than I am...

Btw, the following was compiled by FREEPER Beckwith:

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm


45 posted on 01/09/2008 10:05:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: fallingwater

Gee, no sh . . . . . . kidding!!!

Sad to say, too many voters won’t respond to this. If you want to discredit Obama, you need to start making comparisons to one Jimmuh Carter. When he ran for president, as incompetent as he was, Carter had at least been a state governor. Obama can’t even claim that.

But look at the way he DOES compare to Carter:
1. Carter claimed to be a Washington outsider.
2. Obama claims he is a Washington outsider.
3. Carter claimed that he could change the way business gets done in Washington.
4. Obama says he will be the instrument of (all together now) “C-H-A-N-G-E”.
5. Other than his record as a mediocre governor (a one-termer at that, I believe!), Carter had no major political experience and brought nothing but Rosalyn, Amy, and his brother Billy to the WH.
6. Obama’s claim to fame appears to be a record in the Illinois state house that rivals John Kerry’s in the U.S. Senate (although without Kerry’s longevity), and 2 years in the US senate. Not exactly a glowing resume for a president.

(For those from Rio Linda, Kerry’s biggest accomplishment in the US Senate has been to keep dust from collecting on his senate seat and marrying wealthy widows)

We’ve had one Carter, and we don’t need a sequel!!


46 posted on 01/09/2008 10:07:47 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: fallingwater

So...my occasional chanting to relax makes me a Buddhist?


47 posted on 01/09/2008 10:08:39 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: fallingwater

No picture of Captain Obvious yet!?


48 posted on 01/09/2008 10:08:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: benldguy

Indonesians Don’t See Obama as an Apostate

http://laotze.blogspot.com/search/label/Barack%20Obama


49 posted on 01/09/2008 10:19:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
"“I find Obama’s political and social views as an adult much more troubling than where he sporadically went to church as a little kid.”

Yeah...but check out the "church" he attends now....

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

50 posted on 01/09/2008 10:39:19 PM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: fallingwater
With 235 replies: Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam
51 posted on 01/09/2008 10:41:58 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: fallingwater
...Obama was born a Muslim

I stopped reading right there. Not a single person has ever been born a Muslim. Or a Christian for that matter. Religion is something you choose to believe in, not something in your DNA.

52 posted on 01/09/2008 10:44:44 PM PST by tlj18 (Fred is dead. He doesn't have a chance of even getting 2nd in South Carolina. I'm sorry, guys...)
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To: Sudetenland
You clearly have no understanding of Islam and Muslims. He could never have set foot in a mosque his whole life, and he would still be a Muslim and an apostate, because his father was a Muslim. That he did step foot in a mosque and in madrassas, and pray to Allah only makes it worse in the eyes of Muslims. The religion with a prophet who married 6 year old girls does not care that Obama was 6-10 years old when he was going to Mosque.

It is not a minor issue; Muslims are commanded to kill him. It is one of the clearer laws of sharia. They just killed a Christian woman in Egypt because her father put himself down as Muslim when he was young in order to get a job. The woman was born and raised a Christian. When she listed herself as Christian on a marriage application, they saw that her father was Muslim (if only for a few days), and decided she was an apostate.

53 posted on 01/09/2008 11:05:42 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: goldfinch

great post, seriously.


54 posted on 01/09/2008 11:25:07 PM PST by arroyo run
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To: benldguy
Man, I was wondering when someone would point out that he was an apostate!

And part of my point is that even if he never really embraced Islam, he will still be viewed as an Apostate to the 1.4 Billion muslims in the world. So the argument of rather he really was/is a muslim or not is not as critical as the fact that electing him would put the US president square in the sights of 1.4 Billion people obligated to kill him as an offense to Islam. So much for the supposed care dems have for uniting not dividing the world.

55 posted on 01/09/2008 11:45:22 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: goldfinch; JerseyHighlander; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
"I don’t know how it worked in your family, but when I was that age, my parents decided where I went to church and where I went to school. Since Obama’s father was Muslim, it seems totally logical that he attended Muslim religious services and Muslim religious training at school. I do not think attacking him because of a decision his parents made is going to be successful."

Attacking Obama? Oh please...

I think many are simply missing the point. I agree with what you have to say, what disturbs many is not that he was once a practicing Muslim, but that he has gone out of his way (often aided by the MSM) to either deny it or simply hide the fact.

I once posted here at FR that what disturbed me about Clinton wasn't so much the fact that he had sex with once of his staff, but of the fact that he lied about it and then tried to cover it up.

My comments are here

Obama and The Truth

56 posted on 01/10/2008 12:25:42 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: JerseyHighlander
Thanks so much JerseyHighlander,

Been busy at work so have been on and off periodically, but in my spare time I've been tracking down a few more leads in Indonesia.

Hope to have more up soon on Obama's "mengaji" classes.

It would seem that there might be some actual truth to the madrassa rumours. He didn't exactly attend a madrassa but he did attend Quranic recitation courses - and his father and mother were more devout Muslims that many are claiming.

57 posted on 01/10/2008 12:30:46 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: spokeshave
"“I find Obama’s political and social views as an adult much more troubling than where he sporadically went to church as a little kid.”

I didn't SAY that, note the inverted commas, I was quoting the freeper to whom my comment was addressed.

I have also made the point on several threads that Obama is American in name only, at his roots he remains a tribal KENYAN - and what you have written about his 'church' confirms that.

58 posted on 01/10/2008 12:31:54 AM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: highlander_UW

If Obama gets the nod, God Forbid, if this is true, then who will be his VP, ie the Next President?


59 posted on 01/10/2008 12:35:47 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: dayglored
Please name the credible Islamic sources -- clergy, political, social -- who have said that Obama is an apostate Muslim and must be killed specifically for that reason.

Doesn't that make you wonder why?

You might be interest in "Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse," written by FReeper Expatguy and available at "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog.

He makes the case that, regardless of whether Obama is a Muslim, an apostate, or whatever, he is still viewed as a Muslim by Muslims.

I agree with your observation about Obama's racist, Marxist and socialist views being troubling, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned about his dissimulation.
60 posted on 01/10/2008 3:36:38 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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