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Romney "Disses" Amateur Radio In Televised Town Meeting (and why he won't get my vote)
Eastern MA American Radio Relay League ^ | Wednesday 16 November 2005 @ 15:48:10 | Eastern Massachusetts ARRL

Posted on 01/10/2008 11:30:21 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson

Romney "Disses" Amateur Radio In Televised Town Meeting Posted on Wednesday 16 November 2005 @ 15:48:10

Governor Mitt Romney dismissed the role of Amateur Radio operators in emergency communications during a televised "town meeting" program last night on WCVB's "When Disaster Strikes: Segment Two." The program featured public safety and volunteer organization officials from across Massachusetts among its audience.

Host and moderator Natalie Jacobson asked an increasingly-agitated Governor Romney questions about communications interoperability, and communication without commercial power. Romney was next asked by Jacobson, "...so does it come down to ham radio?..."

The Governor replied in a disgusted tone, "No, we don't need to deal with ham radio operators..."

Embarrassed public safety officials later tried to put in a good word for Amateur Radio. National Weather Service Warning Coordination Meteorologist Glenn Field was prepared to state the importance of Amateur Radio, when Salvation Army Colonel Fred Van Brunt was called upon. Van Brunt remarked about his organization's quest to improve its communications capabilities and how Amateur Radio has aided his organization. "The ham radio situation helps a great deal," he stated.

"I have already written and submitted a letter to the Governor's Office," wrote Eastern MA Section Emergency Coordinator Rob Macedo, KD1CY. "I have also written an email to Natalie Jacobson."

ARRL Section Manager Mike Neilsen, W1MPN sent a section-wide email today to all Eastern MA ARRL members describing the incident along with actions he and his staff were taking to mitigate the situation.

"[Romney's] attitude about us sets an unfortunate tone within the state's executive branch," wrote Neilsen. "As a former military officer, I see this as a failure in leadership. My immediate concern is our working relationship within the [Massachusetts Emergency Management Team] environment." Neilsen intends to address the Governor's comments as "an urgent matter" at a meeting on November 17 with Don Carlton from the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency.

"I was very disturbed about what the Governor stated on the program," wrote Ron Wood, W1PLW, the section's Public Information Coordinator. "It does show that more work is needed by all hams in the section. It's a great idea to write letters explaining the good we do." Wood is attempting to schedule a meeting with the Governor's office tomorrow so that EMA ARRL staffers might discuss the matter further.

Tom Kinahan, N1CPE wrote that Governor Romney's comment has made "a PR problem" for Kinahan in his role as MA State RACES Officer.

"I've got a roster of over 150 Amateur Radio operators that support local communities, and those of us that directly support the state government. There are at least double that in terms of people that are actually out there that I don't have formal paperwork on that support Amateur Radio emergency communications in some organized manner... The Governor has said that he 'certainly doesn't need to rely on ham radio' -- where does that leave the RACES program now?"

"I am ashamed tonight that I am a Republican!" remarked one ham radio viewer. "[Romney] speaks in derogatory tones about hams. He certainly shows an ignorance as to what we do and are capable of. I suggest a grass roots campaign of local hams calling the State House and The Governor's Office to protest."

The television program can be viewed at http://www.thebostonchannel.com/video/5334306/detail.html.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amateurradio; ham; mi2008; radio; romney; romneytruthfile; talkradio
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Goodness sakes. Quick a silly reason not to support someone. I think Ham Radio people should be a bit more mature really.


61 posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:07 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Told ya I slept at a Holiday Inn....(chuckle)

Thanks for letting me post, even though I don’t own a ham radio....


62 posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:26 PM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: street_lawyer

It’s not about “sensitivity” “Stree_Lawyer”, it’s about people who don’t understand their job as an executive officer.


63 posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:34 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Compared to all of the issues to be wary of Mitt Romney, this is small. But, this does speak to either poor state planning in Mass., or then Gov. Romney's ignorance of their EMA.

Typically, Amateur Radio operators are involved in every disaster response and every disaster drill on the state level. A Governor ought to be aware of that.

64 posted on 01/10/2008 12:25:21 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: LibLieSlayer

See LLS? That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about. Understanding the role Amateurs play in such things and doing something to make it better for them, rather than dissing them.

(I’m an Amateur Extra also — and for those of you that care, my call sign is N0NJY)


65 posted on 01/10/2008 12:27:05 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: street_lawyer

Am I the only one who wonders why he became agitated?


66 posted on 01/10/2008 12:28:52 PM PST by tortdog
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To: technomage
BS... you must never have lived through an earthquake or hurricane and have a ham either get you medical help or let you alert family members across the country of your situation. It flies on the Space Station and the Military has used Ham Radio for years... Military Affiliated Radio Service... MARS for short. Ask a Nam Vet how important Ham Radio was in the jungle when they didn't have cell phones... and they still use it from remote areas... and it is a big part of Scientific communications based at the Poles.

LLS

67 posted on 01/10/2008 12:29:17 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: street_lawyer

“Some signs of a hidden addenda by the proponent:”

I caught all that stuff.

Still - shocks me that an ex governor would be this dismissive of hams.

They truly do the yeomans work.


68 posted on 01/10/2008 12:29:52 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Romney has shown himself a COMPLETE AND UTTER IDIOT if he thinks the personal ham radio operators are not very important for continued communcations in the event of a disaster.

They are the final line of communication when everything else goes down, and they take this role very seriously and in the event of an emergency are indeed on their horses so to speak to keep communcations going.

To anyone who understands the role of the HAM operator, Romney just had his Ducacus tank moment.


69 posted on 01/10/2008 12:30:28 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Right on. As a governor this shows a startling lack of understanding of the vulnerabilities of the communications infrastructure.
70 posted on 01/10/2008 12:31:04 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: LukeSW

“This is a crock. I watched that segment. I am a Ham. But Romney was not dissing ham radio, he was simply discussing the changing capabilities of the State communication resources and the fact that the State can rely on their own systems for disaster communications.’

Citizens can’t rely on the state, though - which is why hams are so critical.


71 posted on 01/10/2008 12:32:17 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Rick, I think you are overreacting on this issue. Here is a more reasoned approach posted on the ARRL site where this article was sourced:

I think the Amateur Radio Community in Massachussets needs to do a better job of communicating their role and capabilities to the Governor in a non-adversarial way, but characterizing his comment as disrespectful isn't the best way to do it nor is a spontaneous e-mail barrage.

If your goal is to increase the awareness of the Governor about the back-up capabilities of Amateur Radio in an emergency, then a reasoned and respectful approach by your section leadership officials should be your best approach. But if your goal is to annoy the Governor and have him really dismiss hams as bunch of kooks who overreact to a response to a left-field question, then by all means fire away with your e-mail barrage!

73
Gary Wilson, K2GW
SNJ SEC

If you have policy differences with Mitt, fine. Voting against him because he does not understand Amateur Radio is foolish, IMO.

In fact, Mitt's church is very active in using Amateur Radio for emergency communications and public service. If you want an advocate for Amateur Radio, educate him.

Go Hunter (are you still there?), Go Fred (hello?), Go Mitt (if the above can't be seen).

73, KT5YZ, ARES, RACES, SkyWarn (only two years, though, so I'm a relatively new Ham who joined after Katrina/Rita)

72 posted on 01/10/2008 12:33:02 PM PST by esarlls3
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To: napscoordinator
It is not about HAMs themselves. It is about a critical element of disaster preparedness that as a govener he should be more aware of. If Bush was talking about Iraq and was dismissive of the AirForce efforts would that be an insult to a branch of the military or would that be a huge lack of understanding of something he should know about? This is like that. Trust me HAMs are CRITICAL in emergency situations. They have proven it time and time again in disasters of all kinds.
73 posted on 01/10/2008 12:35:01 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Mittens is he ‘brightest guy in the room’. Don’t you understand that, you little, pesky person you!


74 posted on 01/10/2008 12:36:11 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Rick.Donaldson

This candidate is obviously misinformed, lacks basic knowledge and doesn’t seem to have a clue here in regards to well established emergency communications.


75 posted on 01/10/2008 12:36:31 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Rick.Donaldson

“As a former military officer, I see this as a failure in leadership.”

Romney is clueless. Amateur radio is regularly used in municipal mass casualty exercises. what a dolt.


76 posted on 01/10/2008 12:36:50 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: technomage
Okay that's a first for me. So, if someone is ignorant, they are a liar. Hmmmm. I had no idea that if someone does not understand something, that makes them a liar. I will try to remember that next time.

That's not what I said. Why don't you try actually READING what I said.

Don't get me wrong. I understand the benefits and position that ham radio has in this country and I may actually add this to the reasons I would, or would not, vote for someone.

Because of this, I will assume "You get it". I never said it was the ONLY reason I wasn't voting for him. You assumed that I think. It's A reason, but it's also an IMPORTANT reason, but again, let me reiterate and state, IT's NOT about ham radio, it's about 1) his ignorance, and 2) his refusal to admit his mistake and 3) his refusal to apologize.

It's PRINCIPLES again, and this is something many people just aren't getting. When you lie to someone and then expect them to vote for you -- then you're just an idiot. When you are IGNORANT and treat someone badly because you're ignorant, that's AKIN to lying to someone. Principles.
77 posted on 01/10/2008 12:36:51 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: esarlls3
Voting against him because he does not understand Amateur Radio is foolish

The point is that as a governor he should already know about it. The tone and content of his response indicates a complete lack of awareness. Not just a partial one. Of all people a GOVERNOR should know about disaster preparedness.
78 posted on 01/10/2008 12:37:48 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Rick.Donaldson
You can cancel out the person voting for him because he has nice hair.

Voting for McCain destroys what remains of our sovreignty!


I'd rather be waterboarded than vote for John McCain.
79 posted on 01/10/2008 12:40:04 PM PST by citizen (Capt. McQueeg: "Have any of you an explanation for the quart of missing strawberries?" [click-clack])
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To: Rick.Donaldson
The responses to your posts who think this is about slighted hobbyists demonstrate a similar lack of understanding of what role HAMs play. As a kid with a fresh license, along with my family I participated in some disaster simulations. Lots of fun and very educational.
80 posted on 01/10/2008 12:41:46 PM PST by TalonDJ (N9RGK)
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