Posted on 01/11/2008 11:14:17 AM PST by PurpleMan
This appears to be Coughlin's paper that has caused the ruckus and got him fired by England's special assistant. (as discussed in numerous previous threads)
Careful, it's long (333 pages) and a undoubtedly scholarly tome.
Exceptional, Chgogal. Thank you. From your second link:
Another booster is Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Samuel Helland, commanding
general of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Corps, who said in November
that
Mr. Coughlin’s briefing for Marines bound for Iraq “hit the mark in
explaining how jihadists use the Koran to justify their actions.”
“Your presentation has armed service men and women with more
intellectual ammunition to take the fight to the enemy,” Gen. Helland
said in a letter.
A U.S. Central Command analyst, Neal Harper, stated in an e-mail to
friends, that if Mr. Coughlin is allowed to become a casualty in the
war
of ideas “then I’m deeply concerned about the future course of the war
on terrorism.”
“Ignoring Steve Coughlin’s honest assessments and terminating his
contract sets a dangerous and disturbing precedent,” Mr. Harper stated.
“We struggled for many years to get our heads around radical Islam, and
Steve has been a leader in the effort.”
Mr. Harper said Mr. Coughlin should be promoted, but instead “Hasham
Islam is allowed to insult him publicly.”
“How is it that he is allowed to call anyone a Christian zealot?” he
asked. “This alone exposes his bias, his poor perception of Christians,
and a complete lack of professionalism, at best. Should we instead be
asking who is this guy and how did he get inside? Is he representative
of those who are leading this Muslim outreach? Does Muslim outreach
mean
that we are not allowed to question or confront those we are trying to
communicate with and the doctrine upon which they stand? When speaking
the truth gets one fired, we all should be concerned and at the very
least need to ask why.”
Hey, Chgogal. You have been missed. Welcome back.
Thanks very much for the ping. Thanks very much for posting, Purple Man. Thanks for another ping Cannoneer.
Through 4 Chapters (taking notes). Bring a pen and paper to this reading. WOW!
A discussion of Coughlin and a break from reading Coughlin...(yes I read all 169 comments) here ...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019534.php#comments
Thanks to Robert, Hugh and the outstanding posters at jihadwatch
Cannoneer and Freema what say you to this post on JW by a Sean Osborne at Jan. 13 at 6:56 a.m.
“As far as I am concerned, this a first-order harmonic resonance signaling the heights to which Islam has penetrated or influenced our military and civilian infrastructure. In sum, Islam has corrupted our tactical and strategic decision-making processes. In war such penetration is usually fatal.”
BTW, does anyone really know Hasham Islam’s background? I cannot find anything on the net.
I looked, and it appeared he’s pretty well covered. Also, I was looking at it from Englands’ successors’ (at the Department of the Navy) point of view, the man who will not investigate NCIS.
I looked, and it appeared he’s pretty well covered. Also, I was looking at it from Englands’ successors’ (at the Department of the Navy) point of view, the man who will not investigate NCIS.
(Forgot to ping you, Race)
I scanned through some of the Government sites, and can find no reference to Hasham Islam anywhere. Is this his full, correct name?
is there a download link for this report?
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=47795
“Before retiring from the Navy, Islam contributed this skill and his regional and language expertise on the staff of then-Navy Secretary England. Much of Islam’s work focused on U.S. military engagement with the Middle East.
As England moved to the No. 2 Pentagon position, Islam followed, broadening his purview to “the whole globe.”
“He’s my interlocutor,” England said. “He represents me to the international community. He assists me in my own outreach efforts, and he’s extraordinarily good at it.” .........
.......After growing up in wartime, first in Egypt, then in Iraq, Islam hopes this dialogue can help eliminate differences that can lead to misunderstanding and conflict. “If people talk, people don’t fight. If they talk, they don’t argue,” he said. “I try to bring talking and understanding into the dialogue.”
“Hesham has wonderful friendships and relationships, and therefore he can give me extraordinarily good advice in dealing with countries and people,” England said. “I take his advice, and I listen to him all the time.”
England said he rarely disagrees with Islam’s guidance. “After all,” he said, “if you have a good doctor, you listen to your doctor, right?”
“Unit commanders from the battalion through brigade levels with experience in both Iraq and Afghanistan who have read or heard Coughlin’s presentations agree with his conclusions. Apparently, Deputy Defense Secretary England hasn’t had the opportunity to review Coughlin’s brief. But then he has Hasham Islam running interference- a bit of irony, that. Because Coughlin has gone out of his way to raise concerns about England’s meeting earlier this year with officials of the ISNA, a Muslim Brotherhood front group in the US, Hasham Islam is out to some how get Coughlin by fair means or foul.
That means that the Islamists are inside the Pentagon. But then Hesham Islam has a privileged perch in the executive or E-ring inside England’s office.”
http://www.apaam.org/Hesham_Islam.htm
(Simple Bio)
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1284
“A request has been made of the Senate and House Armed Services and Intelligence Committees to investigate the decision not to renew the contract of Stephen Coughlin, a Pentagon specialist on Islamic law and Islamist extremism, who was to common knowledge, the only Islamic Law scholar on the military Joint Staff."
“......Basics Project has raised the following questions regarding Mr. Coughlin’s dismissal to the Senate and House Armed Services Committees, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:
1) To what degree did an ideological bias cause the removal of the only specialist on Islamic law and Islamist extremism on the Joint Staff?
2) If the Joint Staff and the Pentagon’s general staff are tasked with formulating strategies that are biased toward successful military engagements and the continued security of our country, why would there be a need to “soften” anyone’s views on Islamist extremism as Hasham Islam, aide to Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, offered in critique of Mr. Coughlin’s performance?
3) Why is the federal government – in all capacities – delinquent on initiating a non-partisan, pro-Western and Pro-US ideological campaign designed to counter the indoctrination practices of those who practice radical Islam, specifically Wahhabism, here in the United States?
Basics Project has requested that these committees initiate a comprehensive investigation into each of the above cited concerns, making the results available to the American public through publication in a timely manner. Requests were issued January 7, 2008."
As a teaser, Stephen Coughlin footnotes a FR thread in his monumental work. This one...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1703725/posts?q=1&;page=51
As Robert (at jihadwatch) would say, “Read it All” (IT IS WORTH YOUR TIME OF LIFE)
Correction: As a teaser from me saying this is a MUST READ!
Am I off-base, or didn’t Russia, Israel, China, and others place deep-cover operatives inside our government?
Check the time-line of Islam against Iraq and Saddam; his schooling before emigration, and the lucky breaks he’s made here from the links Chgogal put up.
Thanks for your links.
I’m through with Chapter 5. I thought LTC Joseph C. Myers’ Essay on “The Quranic Concept of War”...
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/06winter/win-ess.htm
...was the most enlightening post I had ever read or seen on FR.
Major Stephen Collins Coughlin’s work includes, encompasses and eclipses it.
I don’t understand why he used that footnote - it has no number? And I do not see where or how it fits.
Here’s a DOD puff piece on him from October. Seems that since this spat was just brewing, England wanted a “he’s soooooo wonderful” piece.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=47795
Correct name is Hesham Islam not Hasham Islam
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