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To: William Tell

“to satisfy your need to FEEL safer, “

Believe me, I have no need to feel safer. I don’t plan on ever being outgunned and quite frankly there’s not a whole lot of crime where I live. If someone ever broke into my home though, I would be prepared.

I’m just talking some common sense.

“If we really want to remove guns from the hands of felons, then we need to use the immense database of felon identifications to track them down, search their homes, and imprison them mercilessly if found in possession of a gun.”

This statement means that you are in favor of denying them their 4th amendment rights and denying them their 2nd amendment rights. Do you not think that what you are proposing will cost money also? I’m assuming that you are talking about warrantless searches since it is already legal to go get a search warrant for probable cause and search someone’s house.

In other words you are advocating the same things that I am. That is that convicted felons can be denied some of their civil liberties. Except you actually want to violate more of their civil liberties.

Also, you are complaining about extra costs associated with purchasing a gun in conjunction with ensuring that criminals do not get firearms. I live in Pennsylvania. The only extra cost that we have associated with us is the PA instant check system that checks for criminal records. I think it costs less than $10. We don’t have any law that requires us to purchase a license to own a firearm. To get a conceal carry license costs $25 for five years. I really don’t have a huge problem with any of that. If it is a lot more expensive for you, you need to be complaining to your state, not the federal government. The only part that is a requirement from the federal government is the instant check system when purchasing a firearm. The one problem in Pa is that the state police have a database of gun owners that was supposed to be destroyed, but currently has not. It is in court now and they better destroy that. It’s none of their business what law abiding citizens own guns.


98 posted on 01/15/2008 10:33:29 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Old Teufel Hunden said: "This statement means that you are in favor of denying them their 4th amendment rights and denying them their 2nd amendment rights."

I already stated that I am not concerned about the rights of felons that cannot be trusted to keep and bear arms.

I am concerned about MY RIGHTS. No gun owner should ever have to bear even one cent of financial burden to accomplish a goal which the anti-gunners are convinced benefits all citizens.

Think of how unsympathetic I am going to be as Kalifornia sinks into bankruptcy due to their profligate spending and surrender to the public employee unions. Yet these same people tax ME when exercising my right to keep and bear arms and spend tax dollars maintaining various anti-gun databases, while supporting bond measures to pay for nonsense. When the full burden of violating my rights falls on the general taxpayer, I will be happier.

100 posted on 01/16/2008 10:54:02 AM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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