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Was Barack Obama a Muslim?
NewsMax ^ | January 13, 2008

Posted on 01/14/2008 9:11:02 AM PST by processing please hold

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‘Night, see y’all ‘round FR.


321 posted on 01/14/2008 9:14:03 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Fred Nerks

Now THAT is my kind of town. That road would look good with my red Chevy V8 short box PU on it, headed back to the ranch with a case of canned beans, a bucket of salt pork, and a keg of Fosters Ale, and a box of .22 ammo for the conies.


322 posted on 01/14/2008 9:24:28 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~krool/photos/nsw/nsw.htm

take a break, go for a drive...


323 posted on 01/14/2008 9:32:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Candor7

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~krool/photos/nsw/MonaroHwy5.jpg

My personal favourite. VROOM VROOM!

(Yes, it’s true, there’s hardly any traffic to worry about.)


324 posted on 01/14/2008 9:52:47 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Candor7; george76; Beckwith; Chgogal

KENYA: KIBAKI VS. ODINGA
January 8th, 2008 by Aurora

Surprise, surprise, much of the western mainstream media and political entities are starting to lean in the direction of Socialist Opposition leader Odinga against Kibaki, a Conservative. That should be enough to tell you who the thug is and who is the valid and best leader of the two.

Compared to other African countries, Kenya has been a relatively model state. Where other countries have suffered coups, Kenya has not. While countries under leaders like Mugabe have had massive drops in their GDPs, Kenya’s has improved. Until now.

Violent protesters egged on by Odinga’s claims that the December elections were ‘rigged’ have gone on a rampage and hundreds of people have been killed. The country’s future is hanging in the balance; it could go on along the excellent path it has followed thus far or it could fall into the black hole magnetic sphere that is the continent of Africa, increasing the leadership vacuum crisis even more.

Let’s compare the two leaders battling it out over the recent election. First you have the winner of the last elections, Mwai Kibaki.

This man believes in the value of hard work and achievement. He believes that if someone gives you a chance in life, you take it.

Family oral history maintains that his early education was made possible by his much older brother-in-law, Paul Muruthi, who believed that Kibaki should not be baby-sitting his little nephews and nieces for his older sister. He studied at the prestigious Mang’u High School between 1947 and 1950 and obtained the maximum possible score in his high school terminal examinations. Kibaki was eager to join the army after high school, but due to a ruling by Walter Coutts, the Chief colonial secretary, people from G.e.m.a communities were prevented from the British army.

He studied Economics, History and Political Science at Makerere University College, Kampala, Uganda. During his studies, he was chairman of the Kenya Students’ Association. In 1955, he graduated as best student of his class, and was therefore awarded a scholarship to undertake further studies in the United Kingdom, obtaining a B.Sc.[3] with distinction in Public Finance at the London School of Economics.

Politically, he’s a conservative:

In December 1991, only days after the repeal of Section 2A of the constitution, which restored the multi-party system, Mwai Kibaki left KANU and founded the Democratic Party (DP)

He favors small government:

His Presidential style is very ‘hands-off’, unlike his predecessor, who attempted to control everything from the centre. Kibaki’s style has the benefit of allowing his Ministers the freedom to manage their departments and introduce much needed reforms; however there is talk in opposition quarters that he has been unwilling to give any public lead in the fight against corruption.

He instituted free and compulsory education for all Kenyan children:

..the Kenyan government …(made the)… decision to abolish school fees for primary education.” <…> By providing free and compulsory primary education, what Kibaki (did) would affect more lives than any president had done or would ever do by the end of the year. The free education programme saw nearly 1.7 million more pupils enroll in school by the end of that year.

He has grown the economy:

Vision 2030, a scheme to raise annual GDP to 10% was unveiled by Kibaki on October 30, 2006. The prudent management of the economy under Kibaki has seen continued Kenya GDP growth during 4 straight years from a low 0.6% (real -1.6%) in 2002 to 3% in 2003, 4.9% in 2004, 5.8% in 2005 and 6% in 2006. GDP growth of 7% in is projected for 2007, a very significant recovery from total decay preceding Kibaki’s presidency. As a direct result of the consistent reforms undertaken by Kibaki’s government, infrastructure rebuilding has been going on in earnest, and all the sectors of the economy have recovered from total collapse pre-2003.

On the other hand, you have Raila Odinga. Like other African leaders, this man favors military coup type solutions:

Raila was placed under house arrest for seven months after being suspected of collaborating with the plotters of a failed coup attempt against President Daniel Arap Moi in 1982. Raila was charged with treason and was detained without trial for six years.

A biography released in July 2006 suggested that Raila was more involved in the coup than previously thought. After its publication, some MPs called for Raila to be arrested and charged, but the statute of limitations had already passed

He’s a ’social democrat’ (a mutation of the rotting manure that is socialism):

At his website, Raila lists himself as a social democrat, thus making distance from his father, who was openly socialist. His party, the LDP, is affiliated to the Liberal International. <…>

Raila Odinga’s oldest son, Fidel, is named after Fidel Castro

He’s a rabble rouser:

He is seen as an effective mobilizer of grassroots support.

Suspected of corruption:

Further to this, there have been recent calls from the Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, Martha Karua, for Raila to answer allegations regarding impropriety in the purchase and subsequent sale of land on the Kisumu Molasses Plant.

Raila Odinga who has a history of accusing people of ‘trying to assassinate him’ or persecuting him in some way has accused Kibaki of rigging the recent elections.

The pressure from the international community (most of them Marxist friendly) is mounting and Kibaka has agreed to talks with Odinga and even a shared government. Odinga is not having a bar of it. Meanwhile some reports claim 1000 deaths.

I’m fully expecting the medias of the world to support Obama’s friend Odinga and to vilify the current leader Kibaka. The left hates achievement and a healthy economy. Let’s just wait to see what they will say. Meanwhile the San Francisco Chronicle has wasted no time in painting the conflict as the fault of Kibaka.

AFRICA DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER TROUBLE-MAKING SOCIALIST DICTATOR!

And I’m wondering why now? What’s going on? Why are they trying to shift him out of power when he’s doing such a great job? Somehow, it rings a very familiar bell.

Read more here...


325 posted on 01/15/2008 2:10:03 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Beckwith

http://www.themidnightsun.org/?cat=19

KENYA: KIBAKI VS. ODINGA

scroll down.


326 posted on 01/15/2008 3:11:42 AM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: processing please hold
Beckwith discusses Obama on the Jeff and Mike Show


327 posted on 01/15/2008 3:44:21 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Fred Nerks
Why are they trying to shift him out of power?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Having been in Kenya, I can say that the country has benefited, because of it's stability, by a large influx of "European Capital." , in banking, agriculture and the tourist industry. YThis has been a carrot on the stick for Kenya's government to maintain stability, and to that end it has evolved a decent army, which has prevented the infiltration of communist style liberals, who want "power to the people" which in africa, means poverty and violent inter-tribal struggle and the emergence of tribal war lords.

Most of the original Euro capital in Kenya was British but later diversified to South Africans, Rhodesians, Germans, Dutch, Scandanavian, Israeli and British commonwealth investment.

As the Arab nations accumulated vast amounts of capital, they eyed Kenya's Israeli investers who had invested billions of dollars in resorts which are situated on the Inidian Ocean coast between Mombassa and Lamu on the Somalian border. The Jewish presence ticked the Arabs wholesale. Islamofascists went in and attempted to RPG an Isreali airliner a few years ago, killing some Kenyan staff simultaneously in a resort in the Kikambala area.

The ex pat investors circled the wagons to keep the ISlamofascists out of Kenya, as they attempted incursions into the Mombassa area. This was successful with the help of Kenya's army. The Muslim council of Kenya and Somalia then decided to support takeover from within Kenya, by financing Odinga, and helping his campaign with infusions of mega bucks. Enter our relative, Obama, to assist.

THe idea is to bring in sharia law for the whole of Kenya in order to shut down the Israeli resorts and to nationalize capital assets owned by foreigners, selling them to wealthy Arabs. The resorts now owned by the Israelis will become Arab pleasure palaces ( with the usual array of Muslim slave women from Indonesia, Russia, Palestine etc.), and those Kenyans now working there will become Muslims and enter into the traditional master/slave relationship that has always existed between Arabs and Africans, with some prominant Kenyans as the slave drivers, like Odinga.

Sharia law pprevents alcohol, bikinis, and beach bongos. No more tourism. The Israelis will have to sell out to wealthy Arabs, and also risk being bombed and shot otherwise. Kenya will then enter the black whole other African nations have, and lapse into a religious oligarchy and become like Somalia.

The expat investment community in Kenya is in distress. They are on the verge of hiring large groups of mercenaries to defend their property and supplement the Kenyan Army. The Arabs are prepared to fund the Luo and supply then with weaponry so they can usurp power through guerilla warfare, with help from the Sudan and Somalia.Al Qaeda will likely get in on the act.

Obama knows all this, and he chose the side of economic and social devolution. Thats why Obama is not fit to be president of the United States. His close ties with his family and many visits, have made it highly unlikely that he was "unaware " of the dynamic. He is just too intelligent, and too black nationalist to have been duped by Odinga.

So the plan is to bring Kenya into an axis with adjacent Somalia and Sudan, and then Egypt will fall to Islamofascism. Eventually the Arab oil supply nations will be encircled. Thats the plan. Unseat the House of Saud, and recapture Mecca and the Oil Fields for the World Caliphate.

Odinga needs to be brought to justice. He and his Islamofascists need to be tried, and executed according to Kenyan Law for the genocide they have committed. Obama is an International criminal for aiding and abetting this Islamofascist movement, and the Kenyan government should issue a warrant for his arrest. Burning a church full of women and children is simply the beginning otherwise, for guerilla warfare by the Luo is the next step in the usual Islamofascist evolution.The Luo are a distinct tribal minority, and seek to impose their will on a majority who want nothing to do with their scheme.

Unless Odinga and his henchmen are captured, tried and punished, this will go on for decades, and ruin a perfectly good country. Obama needs to be brought to a very short leash, and should resign his candidacy and his Senate Seat. Then he should be deported to Kenya to allow the Kenyan authorities to deal with him. I am sure he would be an excellent source of information to them.

These truths will never likely be addressed by the US MSM. Obama is their media darling, and thats part of the Obama plan. He can snub his nose at justice, because he is so popular. And if he plays his cards into the presidency, or a vice presidential office, he can help Odinga negotiate and consolidate his power in Kenya.Obama will do the same for other little jumped up African tyrants through supplying " Hope and Change" aid to such idiots, and to Islamofascist organizations, without traducing current law on fuinding terrorist groups. Soon the US government will be funding terrorist groups.. For this reason Obama needs to be stopped now.He is a stone cold Islamofascist.

328 posted on 01/15/2008 8:14:16 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7

thanks.


329 posted on 01/15/2008 1:41:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Candor7
Regarding Jihadi infiltration of the organizations of various adversaries.LINK.

(We) should infiltrate the police forces, the armies, the different political parties, the newspapers, the Islamic groups, the petroleum companies (as an employee or as an engineer), private security companies, sensitive civil institutions, etc...

...Several problems will confront us in doing that. Among them is choosing the member who will undertake the infiltration, which must be done with confidence in his ability to safeguard his religion in a field which may be filled with unbelief or things that contradict the sharia, at a time when his personality is not combustible and when he was not previously known to be pious...


330 posted on 01/15/2008 2:44:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Right on the money. People generally have no idea just how insidious Islam is.That is how they have successfully conquered a good portion of Mother earth.

BTW, this is really good. We need to save some of our writing for later. I will clean up my startegic summary of whats happening in Kenya and save it. You liked it, but for a writer like me, I assume everything I write to be mnundane.

Passion evolves its own brilliance, and we indded as a small group of posters have accomplished that.

331 posted on 01/15/2008 2:50:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Candor7

...I notice how the Obama defenders seem to have melted...


332 posted on 01/15/2008 3:15:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Undated photo! You can’t use that! That’s RACIST!!!

( /Dem talking points off)


333 posted on 01/15/2008 5:02:19 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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