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Diebold Again: Did Hillary Really Win New Hampshire?
Baltimore Chronicle ^ | January 14, 2008 | Dave Lindorff

Posted on 01/14/2008 6:34:25 PM PST by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

“...which can pass changes to each other like a virus as each is programmed for a particular election.”

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Can a camera’s memory card carry a “virus” to another camera? Each Voting Unit memory card is distinct, separate, locked and sealed inside each unit. A paper record is printed out at the beginning of the day, showing all vote counters at zero; the “zero record” remains attached inside the machine and the totals are printed out before the memory card is ever removed from the individual machine at the end of the election day. I have worked with these machines for 6 years.


41 posted on 01/14/2008 8:10:27 PM PST by maica (Romney '08)
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To: upchuck
Is it really voter fraud if the democrats do it to themselves?
42 posted on 01/14/2008 8:14:17 PM PST by lmsii (The reset button on the Constitution is the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The polls were spot on for the Republicans. Something stinks, and it’s not Bill’s cigar.


43 posted on 01/14/2008 8:23:16 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
What could be easier?

Why, simply insert this in the secret location -- 10011100010000

44 posted on 01/14/2008 8:35:51 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Lorianne

The tears were indeed fake. But it was done for a reason other than what has been talked about in the press.

The Clintons stole the election by busing in a huge amount of voters who registered on the day of the primary. They also had volunteers drift into New Hampshire during the previous 30 days and register.

Also, the phony story that was fed to the press of various precients running out of ballots was really a cover for throwing out Obama votes and adding pre-signed ballots for Clinton.

They knew that they had to make the press look elsewhere for a reason that there was a 13% difference in pre-polling numbers and the actual outcome. So they came up with the fake tears story line.

This may still come back to haunt them. Soros, who is backing Obama, is really the one putting up the money for the Kucinich recount. None of the other candidates can do it because it would be seen as paranoia. If Obama wins, Kucinich has been promised a Supreme Court seat.


45 posted on 01/14/2008 9:42:19 PM PST by shaft29
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To: lmsii
Is it really voter fraud if the democrats do it to themselves?*

I dunno. I'm too busy popping pop corn. This is gonna be a very amusing show.

* democrats do it to themselves... that makes my mind's eye ache.

46 posted on 01/14/2008 10:01:41 PM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: Lorianne

I seem to be at odds with the majority of freepers here. I doubt there was any “election theft” involved, but I would be doing an audit in a minute in this situation if I were the state election official in charge.

Programming glitches happen. Ballot design for optical scanners is not completely foolproof. I’d get a few voting districts and hand count the results— as I understand that Kucinich requested.

If I were the guy in New Hampshire, and particularly if I were the guy at Diebold, I would be way out front on this move. If there is much more delay and then there turns out to be a problem, the state and the company will look like they are covering up and everybody involved is going to lose their jobs. Much better to be on the side of conducting the investigation.


47 posted on 01/14/2008 10:04:28 PM PST by VaFarmer
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To: AD from SpringBay

“After all the pi$$ing and moaning about Bush stealing the election from Gore”

They were only pissing and moaning about that election because the dems had rigged that election for gore to win, but they didn’t count on the election being a landslide so they only did a 3 for 1 transfer of votes instead of 4 to 1. So they were “certain” he must have stolen it.


48 posted on 01/14/2008 10:18:50 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: truthfreedom

Interesting observation, truthfreedom. I looked at the results by city/town. Clearly there was a focus on the balloting at the larger cities. Manchester, Nashua, Salem, and Rochester contributed 7471 more votes to Hillary than Obama, which is essentially the margin of victory (7667 votes). Makes you wonder if those buses made roving stops around NH.


49 posted on 01/14/2008 10:23:43 PM PST by cantweall
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To: Billthedrill

LOL - that’ll mess with their heads


50 posted on 01/14/2008 10:29:13 PM PST by RightGeek
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To: truthfreedom

Perhaps you should send a note to the Kucinich campaign.

Today, Obama was the defrauded one, next time it will be the Republicans. A snake is a snake.


51 posted on 01/14/2008 10:30:03 PM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Lorianne

Kerry was right? Seriously now... if it turns out these machines HAVE been rigged, not just the New Hampshire primary will fall under the microscope. Let’s hope not - I have no wish to revisit the battles of the last 2 elections.


52 posted on 01/15/2008 2:09:39 AM PST by COgamer
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To: truthfreedom
He saw a van arrive every 7 minutes dropping off a new load of mostly young girls. He overheard them talking among themselves about voting for Hillary.

If there was hanky-panky, that's probably the answer. Hillary's surprise margin would come from the cities because that's where someone minded to cheat would bus in the ringers.

Biometric identification is coming. We'll use it first for office and banking security. It will filter out to the ATM's. Eventually we'll be "signing" our credit card purchases with a thumbprint. Then we'll use it for voting. The democrats will argue that this would unconstitutionally burden the poor and minorities who disproportionately don't have thumbs, but we'll just have to win that case when we come to it.

53 posted on 01/15/2008 3:06:16 AM PST by sphinx
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To: COgamer

I don’t think the machines were rigged, but neither do I have any particular affection for them. What I AM sick and tired of is democrat conspiracy-mongers beating up on Republicans about Diebold. The big push for the new machines came from the dims themselves, who believe that they are disproportionately handicapped by voter error and fouled ballots. I suspect they’re right about that. The point of the new machines is to idiot proof the process through automation.


54 posted on 01/15/2008 3:11:30 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Lorianne

All they have to do is bring in some extra ballots, which they did.

Here in Indy in the 2006 election, the people at our polling station claimed the machine that counted the vote wasn’t working. They had us drop our marked ballot in a box below.

I have always wondered if they ever made it into the machine.


55 posted on 01/15/2008 3:33:13 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: t2buckeye
With it “obvious” that Obama was winning, independents probably went with McCain...

That is precisely what happened. Independents are so stupid that they couldn't figure out they don't have enough numbers to give a victory to BOTH Obama and McCain. After seeing the polls showing Obama with a huge lead (based on polling of independents), they voted for McCain who was in a tighter race. That shift gave the victory to Clinton.

It is that simple.

56 posted on 01/15/2008 3:37:50 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: shaft29
They knew that they had to make the press look elsewhere for a reason that there was a 13% difference in pre-polling numbers and the actual outcome. So they came up with the fake tears story line.

That theory is the best fit. She cried to cover the theft. Clinton's are masters of illusion and misdirection. Will be interesting to see what they will do the next time their backs are against the wall. Perhaps Bill will cry ?

57 posted on 01/15/2008 4:10:21 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Erik Latranyi
After seeing the polls showing Obama with a huge lead (based on polling of independents), they voted for McCain who was in a tighter race. That shift gave the victory to Clinton.

According to that theory, a vote for McCain, was a vote for Hillary.

58 posted on 01/15/2008 4:12:20 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: cantweall

Vans, not buses.


59 posted on 01/15/2008 10:15:55 AM PST by truthfreedom
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