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Phony Green Lightbulbs
Conservative Battlelines ^ | January 16, 2008 | Timothy Carney

Posted on 01/17/2008 5:16:01 AM PST by fweingart

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To: fweingart

Said this on an another thread and it is my new mindset. There is a struggle for power today in America. It is the people vs the Government. It is us against them.


41 posted on 01/17/2008 6:19:30 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty ("I am not a neoconservative. I am pro-American." - John Bolton)
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To: Obadiah
Consider California lawmakers.

They are working on a 'bill' for every homeowner where the thermostats can be controlled by a centrally located government thermostat control center!

42 posted on 01/17/2008 6:20:09 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: gridlock

What a free-market apologist!

sheesh

/s


43 posted on 01/17/2008 6:22:45 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: L98Fiero

However, he WAS AN AMERICAN.


44 posted on 01/17/2008 6:22:59 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: fweingart
When you stop to think about how screwed up anything becomes when the government intervenes......think of the water saving toilet.....you know, the one you have to flush 3 or 4 times to get it all down.

I'm still searching the Constitution for the clause that gives the government authority to write laws that insure profits for business.  See my tagline!

45 posted on 01/17/2008 6:23:28 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Kerretarded
It is the people vs the Government. It is us against them.

Right-O!

It's the shrinking pool of intelligent Americans against the ignorant ones AND the liberal pansies we allow to rule our lives.

46 posted on 01/17/2008 6:25:24 AM PST by fweingart (Give Hillary a chance. (She'll change your life.))
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To: ArrogantBustard

“And where do you think the 31 cent incandescent bulbs are built?

Pennsylvania.

At least, that’s what the box claims.”

The box says “Made in Pennsylvania?” Or is the company’s corporate HQ in PA?


47 posted on 01/17/2008 6:26:25 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: fweingart
Had Thomas Edison employed the same business strategy as his 21st-Century heirs at General Electric, he would have lobbied Congress to outlaw the candle in 1879 when he perfected and patented the light bulb.

If he thought he could swing it, he absolutely would have tried. He did invent the electric chair to discredit rivals pushing direct current over his alternating current.

48 posted on 01/17/2008 6:27:16 AM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: Slapshot68

The box of standard, incandescent bulbs is labeled “Proudly Made in [some town], Pennsylvania”. I forget if it was GE, Sylvania, or Philips bulbs ... in any case, they were for sale at Lowe’s.


49 posted on 01/17/2008 6:31:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Slapshot68; 80 Square Miles
LEDs will truly be the future. They use like 1/30 the energy of a regular bulb and they have no toxic parts to them. Problem is that right now they’re expensive and brightness isn’t up to snuff yet.

But that’ll change quickly over the next couple of years I’m sure.

I've seen one LED light from OSRAM that puts out>1000 lumen. Now a PAR38 flood light puts out around 650 lumen, and a 50 watt halogen around 900. Wattage for the LED, around 13W (75 lm per W).

I haven't seen any retail applications - yet. but they're coming. So don't fret the Edison bulb ban, or the CFL crap. LED is the light of the future.

50 posted on 01/17/2008 6:39:53 AM PST by AFreeBird (Fred 08)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“The box of standard, incandescent bulbs is labeled “Proudly Made in [some town], Pennsylvania”. I forget if it was GE, Sylvania, or Philips bulbs ... in any case, they were for sale at Lowe’s.”

Wow, that’s pretty cool. Glad to see some things are still made here.


51 posted on 01/17/2008 6:40:53 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: AFreeBird

“I haven’t seen any retail applications - yet. but they’re coming. So don’t fret the Edison bulb ban, or the CFL crap. LED is the light of the future.”

They do sell some now.

http://www.ledlight.com/detail.aspx?ID=26

But $65 for an equivalent 60w bulb for your lamp. Ouch.


52 posted on 01/17/2008 6:45:41 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Doohickey
He did invent the electric chair to discredit rivals pushing direct current over his alternating current.

The other way around. Edison was in favor of DC. He tried to get people to call death by electricution "Westinghouse" to discredit his primary rival.

53 posted on 01/17/2008 6:46:26 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: fweingart
Were he alive today, Diogenes, in order to find truth, would not be looking for an honest man, he'd be following the money to.....

A Parliament of Whores

54 posted on 01/17/2008 6:47:25 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Slapshot68
Glad to see

Likewise ... and I'm seriously annoyed that all the new, hi-tech bulbs are being made for the benefit of the Peoples' Liberation Army.

55 posted on 01/17/2008 6:48:51 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Slapshot68
Nope, none of those are based on the OSRAM design. They're older tech and get their brightness (such as it is) from 10's of LED's. The OSRAM uses 6. And they're not dimmable.


56 posted on 01/17/2008 6:49:08 AM PST by AFreeBird (Fred 08)
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To: Obadiah

I told a lib relative that I have a solution for the energy situation.

Now that Congress has regulated our toilet water and banned lightbulbs,

we could just hook up the founders spinning in their graves to giant turbines and generate all the power we need.


57 posted on 01/17/2008 6:51:07 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: KarlInOhio

Thank God Tesla and Westinghouse won out. Otherwise we’d have power stations on every block.


58 posted on 01/17/2008 6:51:08 AM PST by AFreeBird (Fred 08)
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To: magellan

Used to be near St.Louis
Feb 2007
GE turns off lights at Wellston plant: 175 losing jobs
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/02/05/story11.html


59 posted on 01/17/2008 6:52:56 AM PST by listenhillary (A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.)
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To: fweingart

Could be. I just find it strange these companies ALSO make all the standard filament bulbs. So they’re losing part of their business to try to gain other?

I know, the new swizzles are very expensive, so maybe they can make alot. But theoretically, they “last forever”, so there would be no replacement profit.

How does this really profit them again? How does it work out long-term better than old-fashioned filaments?

Or is it more for the egos of the EnviroMental NAZIs?


60 posted on 01/17/2008 6:53:01 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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