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An Unexpected Correlation: The Legacy of Abortion
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 1/22/2008 | Mark Earley

Posted on 01/22/2008 11:58:33 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

Note: This commentary was delivered by PFM President Mark Earley.

A woman—let’s call her Caroline—was 92 years old. She was dying, in agony, but Caroline’s pain was not physical. It was emotional. Caroline, you see, had been carrying a secret for more than 50 years: As a young woman, she had undergone two abortions, suffered terrible guilt all her life—and now, on her death-bed, afraid that God could not forgive her.

As her palliative-care nurse, Jean Echlin, writes, “At the end of her life she shared with me her agony over her lost babies . . . she felt that she had committed murder.”

Caroline is not alone, as Echlin writes in Perspectives 2007, a publication of the De Veber Institute for Bioethics and Social Research. Echlin also tells the story of a woman named Lydia, who was dying of cancer. Even with the use of a pain pump, which gave her steady doses of morphine, Lydia’s pain did not abate.

“I asked her if her faith or prayer could be of any comfort,” Echlin writes. “Lydia remained silent except for her moaning.” But the next day she confided the truth. “I can’t pray—God won’t listen,” Lydia said. “I killed a precious baby when I was 18 . . .” Lydia’s abortion had taken place more than 40 years ago—and she was still grieving over it.

Caroline and Lydia are but two examples of what the Institute calls an “unexpected correlation” between abortion and pain-relief care. Dying women experience unresolved guilt and psychological pain related to their abortion—guilt and pain that stand in the way of a peaceful death. Their guilt is so great, Echlin says, that it impedes the effectiveness of their pain medication. Only when the abortion issue is resolved—when someone listens to them and assures them of God’s forgiveness—is the pain medication made effective, and the women able to die peacefully.

This is dramatic testimony that abortion is not, as the abortion lobby claims, something women will “get over” in a week or two. It is evidence that we know inherently that we are made in the image of the God who gives life. When we do violence to that image—when we destroy life instead of nurturing it—it has a profound effect on our emotions, our psyche, and our souls.

Today, as we mourn the 35th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, and the tens of millions of abortions that have resulted from this dreadful decision, we must recognize that there are likely many women among us who are silently suffering abortion grief decades after their babies’ lives were snuffed out. As the De Veber Institute notes, these women need our compassion, and their trauma should be recognized and acknowledged by their care providers.

As we comfort the dying, we must also help the living. We must make sure young women know the truth: that abortion takes a human life; that there are alternatives to abortion; and that there are people who will help them through a difficult, unplanned pregnancy.

And they must be told that the notion that they will simply “get over” an abortion is a bold-faced lie. The truth is that if they walk into that abortion clinic, they may still be feeling the agony over taking their baby’s life—even on their deathbed a half century later.


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1 posted on 01/22/2008 11:58:36 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
A woman—let’s call her Caroline—was 92 years old. She was dying, in agony, but Caroline’s pain was not physical. It was emotional. Caroline, you see, had been carrying a secret for more than 50 years

Wouldn't that be more like 60 or 70 years?

2 posted on 01/22/2008 12:03:14 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Mr. Silverback

My grandmother died 20 years ago, in her late 80’s. She confessed to me that she had had an abortion in between her two kids (my mom and her brother). My g’pa was gone to Mexico as a reporter for the Mexican Revolution (1920s), she thot he might not return. They put some sort of electrical gadget over her belly.

She was tormented by it all these years.


3 posted on 01/22/2008 12:04:05 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Sherman Logan

In the first place, 60 and 70 are also “more than 50.” She might have had the abortions in her late 30’s or her 40’s.


4 posted on 01/22/2008 12:06:07 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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5 posted on 01/22/2008 12:06:08 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I will defer to FREEPERs in the Medical profession, but it seems to me I read or heard about this condition before. It wasn’t with abortion, but any individual carrying a “guilty heart” to the death bed: adultery, murder or even the mourning of a spouse.
6 posted on 01/22/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by 11th Commandment
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7 posted on 01/22/2008 12:08:50 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Wouldn't that be more like 60 or 70 years?

No, I don't see why it would be improbable for a 42 year old woman to have an abortion. Think of all the difficulties that could come with raising a child at that age that might convince you it was a good idea.

8 posted on 01/22/2008 12:11:49 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Caroline unfortunately is a minority. I truly believe that most of these women dread the inconvenience and annoyance of an abortion but frankly see little wrong with it.

You’re dealing with savages, heathens, humans that are best described as nihilist and hedonistic for the most part. It’s a byproduct of poor education, a lack of respect for self and others, a void created by a secularist society where people live in anonymity and without consequence of poor behavior. Abortion is a byproduct of social decay and liberalization to the point where there are no rules except those that make the “mob” feel good (Pure hedonism). Whether it’s most homosexuals or a feminist, essentially their life revolves around their sex organs, and for the feminist abortion means sexual reproductive freedom as well as a higher degree of independence socially and economically. Everything else is superfluous, since after all, you’re dealing with a hedonist.


9 posted on 01/22/2008 12:18:34 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Effects

Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy

45,951,133

Total Abortions since 1973

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

Roe v Wade: FULL Text (The Decision that wiped out an entire Generation 33 years ago today)

10 posted on 01/22/2008 12:22:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse? Your doctor?)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Sad article.


11 posted on 01/22/2008 12:26:45 PM PST by Antoninus (I survived Roe v. Wade. 40,000,000 of my generation did not.)
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To: Sherman Logan
"Wouldn't that be more like 60 or 70 years?"

You are assuming it was a legal abortion?

12 posted on 01/22/2008 12:27:44 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: bboop

My aunt died of inoperable cancer in her late 70s. In her last few days, when the pain got unbearably severe, she was administered a morphine drip. When it first started, she began sobbing inconsolably; my mother (her older sister) ordered us out of the room. Later Mom told us she had had an abortion at age 19; she had ghastly visions of her little girl calling to her from an uncovered grave. Her husband had returned from WW2 sterile - she was childless.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 12:33:26 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thanks for posting this perspective from Chuck Colson.

Here's a link to a thread about the encouraging LA Times editorial by Kissling/Michelman. It does "sound like pro-choice conceding defeat". We, who were once "declasse" are now "respectable". We've come a long way, baby!

Think about it, they are now the ones who are "anti-science"! They don't want "three-dimensional ultrasound images". They don't want the public display of the "nitty-gritty details of abortion procedures". Goodness, even in this article Kissling/Michelman goofed and used the term "baby" instead of their preferred "fetus" (Three-dimensional ultrasound images of babies in utero began to grace the family fridge."). They are doomed.

14 posted on 01/22/2008 12:38:20 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Red6

I think your description is accurate.... for you and me and about everyone. That is why we need a Savior to stand in our place. God chose to Love and save us when we were all those things you described, not after we got saved and straightened our lives up.


15 posted on 01/22/2008 12:42:27 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Red6

Caroline unfortunately is a minority. I truly believe that most of these women dread the inconvenience and annoyance of an abortion but frankly see little wrong with it.

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I think as women age they do see the folly in those “choices”. But I believe abortion will not change until people value human life, and value the fact that we are created in God’s image, not the product of “cosmic accidents”. That point of view devalues who we are.


16 posted on 01/22/2008 12:44:30 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Mr. Silverback

A lot of us suffer from remorse and guilt. My girlfriend and I had an abortion in 1975, when it was first legalized, and we were stupid enough and gullible enough to be fooled by those who seemed older and wiser. The experience has left a scar on my soul that will always be there. I see the ghost of that child whenever I look at my son today, who is now nine years old. It’s an awful feeling of despair knowing that my son should not be an only child.

I haven’t seen that young woman in 32 years, either, and I’m sure that she feels the same way. And I’m sure there’s a lot of men and women out there who feel that remorse in their souls, too.


17 posted on 01/22/2008 12:53:25 PM PST by redpoll
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To: antinomian

If she was 92 and had an abortion as a “young woman,” surely it would have been a good deal more than 50 years ago.


18 posted on 01/22/2008 12:54:16 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: redpoll
The experience has left a scar on my soul that will always be there.
I feel the same way....
19 posted on 01/22/2008 12:59:33 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: TigersEye
You make some good points.

To supplement your post. Near all states have laws that require hospitals, police stations as well as fire departments to take on children without asking any questions. If some mother really does not want her child, she can literally drop it off at any of these places, and it has accrued.

So why do many of these women choose to have the abortion? It’s a way to cover up their behavior and clinically remove any trace of it, protected by privacy rights. There does not need be any explaining to family, friends or anyone else. Screw around, get knocked up, have it sucked out, and enjoy the latte while watching friends the next week.

20 posted on 01/22/2008 1:03:40 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"No, I don't see why it would be improbable for a 42 year old woman to have an abortion."

Not improbable at all. My mom had me at age 39 and my younger brother four years later.

Think of all the difficulties that could come with raising a child at that age that might convince you it was a good idea.

WHAT "difficulties"?? To be forty-two is not precisely to be on ones's deathbed. One might argue that someone of that level of maturity would have fewer "difficulties" than someone fourteen.

21 posted on 01/22/2008 1:05:26 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
People who lack God in their life are dangerous.

Humanistic thought is without principal or any real value. There are no absolutes, there are no boundaries, since it’s all man made and simply changed at whim to suit oneself. The humanist will use terms like “Situational ethics.” Anything can be argued and what it ultimately turns into is the pure pursuit of self gratification. Without God, human life has no value.

22 posted on 01/22/2008 1:11:58 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6

I have researched this extensively and the research shows that approximately 50% of the women who receive abortions suffer a type of post traumatic stress syndrome an average of 5 years after the procedure. I have spent many years as a volunteer in an abortion alternatives ministry of the Catholic Church. Almost all of the young women I counseled had been forced into an abortion decision by their parents. I don’t believe that Caroline is in minority based on my experience and research. Additionally, the Catholic Church has a very successful ministry in assisting women who have had abortions seek reconciliation. Project Rachael is at capacity every time it is offered here.


23 posted on 01/22/2008 1:13:57 PM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: Red6

I don’t know if it’s fair to say that I made those points. I just collected information from other sources and posted it. From one of those sources in my post it’s clear that women have a number of reasons for aborting their children.
Not the least of which are men pressuring or manipulating them into it. That is not an excuse but it is part of the reality.


24 posted on 01/22/2008 1:18:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Walkingfeather

Absolutely!

People change. People learn may it be formally, or informally through simple life experiences. People often learn from their mistakes and regret bad past decisions. Some don’t find God until in the latter part of their life. However, I truly believe that only a small minority of women who have abortions truly ever reach such a point where they have any concept or even concern for what they did. Think about this, many of these women have “multiple” abortions in a lifetime. Why do you think?


25 posted on 01/22/2008 1:19:59 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: crymeariver

“Almost all of the young women I counseled had been forced into an abortion decision by their parents. I don’t believe that Caroline is in minority based on my experience and research”

Good point, I hadn’t concidered that.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 1:21:09 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: ▀udda▀udd; redpoll

I can say from first hand experience that confession and repentance are the end to despair over this.


27 posted on 01/22/2008 1:23:22 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (This line intentionally left blank)
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To: Red6
However, I truly believe that only a small minority of women who have abortions truly ever reach such a point where they have any concept or even concern for what they did.

I'm not so sure about that. Read this link from my post.

Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Adverse Effects

28 posted on 01/22/2008 1:24:19 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: TigersEye
“Not the least of which are men pressuring or manipulating them into it. That is not an excuse but it is part of the reality.”

The man should be the one to protect the family. He’s the one who was endowed with the capacity to mentally and physically do such. Instead he takes an insecure woman he got pregnant and pressures her into an abortion? Now that’s a real hero! Yuck-

29 posted on 01/22/2008 1:26:34 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6

“People who lack God in their life are dangerous”

I’d say so. The seventh graders at my daughters school prayed outside planned parenthood today and we’re heckled.

It’s so sad.


30 posted on 01/22/2008 1:33:20 PM PST by Cheryllynn
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To: Red6

A lot of men that pressure women into abortions aren’t family at all. Just boyfriends. But many are husbands and some are fathers. The impregnator is not always the one doing the pressuring. There are also women friends and mothers that do it as well as fathers, husbands and boyfriends.


31 posted on 01/22/2008 1:39:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

bumo


32 posted on 01/22/2008 1:40:32 PM PST by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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To: redpoll

I hope you share your grief with a post abortive counselor.
Check out Rachel’s Vineyard.


33 posted on 01/22/2008 3:01:45 PM PST by victim soul
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To: TigersEye

I’d imagine that in all reality it’s a mixed bag of nuts. You’ll have various types with various agenda’s seeking to have an abortion.

Nonetheless, the woman also has a say, the ultimate say. Many are not young innocent children and a significant number have multiple abortions throughout their life. As with prostitution, there is this need to victimize the women, who in some cases really are the victims; but often are simply low lives seeing a buck and literally willing to do anything for it. Abortion is about money and business for those performing it. It’s about power and the politics of sex for those legislating it. It’s about covering up ones failures at another’s expense, someone who has no say and no political power, the unborn, for the ones having it done.

Maybe I’m a narrow minded heartless ass. It wouldn’t be the first time I was described as such. But for most of these women I feel less sympathy than disgust. They’re low-lives, the vermin that throws their legs apart and have a good time but then does not want to deal with the consequences. There are literally thousands who wish to adopt, like my co-worker. There are places unwanted children can be dropped off at; no questions ask (Hospitals, police and fire stations). There are many organizations that will help young, poor and the unwed. Medically there is seldom a reason for an abortion, and even the 2.8% is most likely a generous statistic. Even if you have no insurance, no healthcare from anywhere, there are a plethora of plans and programs (Federal and state) for poor and prenatal care. There is no excuse. It’s about convenience, esthetics, and concealment for those who have it done. It does not fit into their timeline right now. It does not look good if our social circle knows I gave a kid up for adoption, so I’d rather kill it.

I know where you’re coming from. I agree that their boyfriends, family, or husbands share the guilt. As aforementioned, I am aware that it’s a mixed bag of nuts (the girls that do this and their reasons). I completely agree that sometimes people change and later they have some epiphany where they realize, for whatever reason, “My God, what did I do?” But like a gun which does not shoot by its self, these girls don’t have abortions accidentally. They chose this action. They can’t say they didn’t know what it is. They probably had a waiting period. They had to sign papers and were fully cognoscenti of their actions. Sometimes guilt is deserving, and while the victimization of the woman is often the nice and gentle path, I’d say some simply fit the description of words that would get censored in this forum.

Abortion is the magic pill. It’s the get out of jail free card for 97% or more and most of the people who are morally so decedent won’t get fixed. They might feel remorse, especially later when they have children, or especially if they can’t. People also feel bad when they have a lot of debt; they also feel bad when in prison for murder or rape. There is a difference between feeling sorry for oneself, and understanding that what one did is wrong. I admit, I might be full of crap and this topic is not my forte. But I have a little more calloused picture of the women who do this, a family, boyfriend, or even husband that pushes her. Sorry-


34 posted on 01/22/2008 3:10:34 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Even if one denies the spiritual dimension, there’s no denying the power of the mind over the body, and as you pointed out, this can be exhibited in cases of grief. My Great-Grandmother tried to soldier on after her husband’s death, but a couple of weeks passed and she just slipped away.


35 posted on 01/22/2008 3:11:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Red6

Though you are right about the hedonistic nature of the culture, I think you’re way off on the regret aspect. Few if any women kill their child without major emotional reprecussions. You could see that just by watching the Silent No More contingent at the March for Life this year.


36 posted on 01/22/2008 3:20:26 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: TigersEye

Good post.


37 posted on 01/22/2008 3:21:01 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Antoninus
Sad article.

Yep...imagine the emotional debris this Holocaust has caused.

38 posted on 01/22/2008 3:21:54 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: 11th Commandment

Before my grandmother died int he 1970s, she was in a hospital room with another elderly woman.

I went to visit granny and asked how she liked her roomate.

Granny told me “That woman has done something awful in her life.” She said the woman was in mental agony, begging for forgiveness, constantly sobbing and begging for forgiveness.

Also I know someone who was married to a woman who had an abortion in England, before they were legal here. The woman later lost her mind, and would meet her husband at the door when he came home from work screaming at him “You told them, you told the TV and newspaper reporters.” She’d wave a newspaper at him and swear the stories in there were about her abortion.

I couldn’t imagine having to live knowing I had taken the life of an innocent child.


39 posted on 01/22/2008 3:22:33 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thank you.


40 posted on 01/22/2008 3:27:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Excellent post. I'll give the article a read.

They are doomed.

Yep, we're winning every day.

41 posted on 01/22/2008 3:28:30 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Walkingfeather

Your post is what I should have written. Excellent.


42 posted on 01/22/2008 3:30:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: redpoll

I’ve had a similar experience.

My love child would’ve been going on 25. I trust that my repentance was genuine and I have been forgiven.


43 posted on 01/22/2008 3:31:27 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: redpoll

Thank you for telling us that. I’ll keep you in my prayers. Freepmail me if you’d like to share a specific concern.

And though what you did was wrong, forgiveness is available.


44 posted on 01/22/2008 3:35:45 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Red6

You have described well many of the reasons women have that are listed in my post. I said there were no excuses. I don’t know about all times and all places but most testimonies say there was no waiting period and no advice given. That is not how abortion takes place.


45 posted on 01/22/2008 3:36:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: ▀udda▀udd
I feel the same way....

Have you sought forgiveness?

46 posted on 01/22/2008 3:36:38 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: TigersEye

One graph that you never ever see....The graph of deaths of women from legal abortion.


47 posted on 01/22/2008 3:40:49 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
WHAT "difficulties"?? To be forty-two is not precisely to be on ones's deathbed. One might argue that someone of that level of maturity would have fewer "difficulties" than someone fourteen.

Well, when you come right down to it, there's no such thing as a difficulty that justifies or mitigates killing a child. But you have to admit that a lot of women that age would think they were supposed to be done raising children. Often they're looking at the next phase of their life, and they may convince themselves that they are likely to have health problems.

My wife is 41, and if she got pregnant again we wouldn't even worry about it, but not everyone has that point of view, and they take the easy way out.

48 posted on 01/22/2008 3:44:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.


49 posted on 01/22/2008 3:45:52 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: redpoll

Your post brought tears to my eyes. That must be a terrible burden. I’m so sorry.


50 posted on 01/22/2008 3:49:11 PM PST by MattinNJ (I have full blown Hillary Derangement Syndrome. I can't sit out.)
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