9. Fred did endorse McCain in 2000
17. And worked ever so closely with him on the McCain-Feingold-Thompson bill.
61. Suzi expounds on the RNC talking points re: Fred and CFR.
66. That may be true but McCain-Feingold was a vast over kill.
84. As Fred himself acknowledged when it finally saw the light of day, after Fred had left the Senate.
Which brought us to my post 167 with FACTUAL evidence destroying your revisionist history on McCain-Feingold-Thompson not seeing the "light of day" until "after Fred had left the senate."
At the conclusion of my evidentiary post, I said;
The stooge was sent in to accomplish a mission. Immediately upon succeeding he dropped out of the race.
Without uttering a single syllable about the proof I posted, you launched into an attack on me over my personal comment.
168. Can YOU prove that Fred got into it to help McCain win the race? Doesn't look like Fred's dropping out has helped McCain one bit. So who's doing the lying?
Having no idea what you were babbling about, other than calling me a liar, I responded with post...
169. Why the hell would I PROVE something like that?
Who the hell is talking about MeInsane? Not me!
Not being one to have your dreams shattered you come back with post...
173. YOU made that accusation, then accused FredHeads of lying about his record. Since you so helpfully provided 'proof' of Fred's record, I'd just like to see some proof of your accusation about why Fred got into the race. Otherwise, why do you continue the accusation, except for YOUR own gratification?
For ease in deciphering this mess, let's take it one sentence at a time, shall we?
YOU made that accusation, then accused FredHeads of lying about his record.
To be fair, I did not THEN accuse FredHeads of lying.
I clearly, unequivocally told YOU to stop the lies and I did it FIRST, not THEN.
I did NOT make an accusation, I simply stated my opinion.
Since you so helpfully provided 'proof' of Fred's record,
I'm glad you considered the FACTS helpful. Is there something I provided that you dispute? Is that why the 'proof' reference???
I'd just like to see some proof of your accusation about why Fred got into the race.
See, here you moved the goal posts. In post 168 you originally said:
Can YOU prove that Fred got into it to help McCain win the race?
Since I made no reference to McCain whatsoever, and most definitely was NOT referring to him, I had no idea what I was supposed to prove.
NOW you want proof of my personal opinion, not an accusation, on why Fred got into the race. LOL!!!
With the amount of distortion, misinformation and blatant lies that have been perpetuated about that man's record over the past 10 months, I owe no proof of anything to anyone, least of all on my PERSONAL OPINION, not an accusation.
And finally...
Otherwise, why do you continue the accusation, except for YOUR own gratification?
Suzi...Suzi...Suzi. I have NOT continued anything. I made a statement, my PERSONAL OPINION, not an accusation, ONCE...ONE TIME...UNO...understand???
Why do YOU continue to post misinformation, distortion and lies, except for YOUR own gratification?
One factual item I left out of my post 167, regarding your comment 84. As Fred himself acknowledged... What Fred allegedly 'acknowledged' was in regard to issue ads, not the entire CFR bill.
During an interview with Laura Ingram, when asked "Would you today tell us that you made a mistake in supporting campaign finance reform?" He gave no coherent answer, so Laura tried again asking; "What about the issue ads?"
Eventually he got around to saying; "Now, they added on something that was a mistake and that is the issue ads that you were talking about and I voted for all of it. So I support the first part but I don't support that."
The FACT (those things have a nasty habit of popping up) is Fred not only supported “that”, but was instrumental in guiding it through the process. If you would like, I will be happy to supply you with the actual arguments ol' Fred made on the floor of the senate in full support of the Snowe-Jeffords amendment, aka as issue ads, and squashing DeWine's amendment to remove the Snowe-Jeffords amendment from the CFR bill.
Just let me know if YOU would like that PROOF for YOUR own records and gratification.
Ooooops, should have pinged you to post above.
Whatever