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What Romney Has To Do At Tonight's Debate
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 30, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/30/2008 10:02:49 AM PST by jdm

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To: Jokelahoma

>I say that supporting a candidate based on religious preference or any other all-but-meaningless reason is also bigotry.

I wouldn’t say that. Religious bigotry is accompanied with hate and disdain. So while voting FOR someone is evidence of religious discrimination, it’s not evidence of religious bigotry, i.e., all religious bigotry is religious discrimination, but not all religious discrimination is religious bigotry.


241 posted on 01/30/2008 1:25:35 PM PST by tortdog
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To: HoustonTech

>I don’t like any of the remaining candidates, but I think McCain has the best chance of beating the Democrats in November.

I think that you are right, to a degree. But I think that Romney had a decent shot of pulling off economic conservatives from the Demos.

But Romney is dead. He’s not even convincing GOP voters that he is better than McCain when it comes to the economy.

GOP voters can be really dumb, I must admit.


242 posted on 01/30/2008 1:26:58 PM PST by tortdog
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To: D-fendr

I’m fine with that. I hope Huckabee proves you wrong, but if he can’t, and his candidates go to McCain, then fine, I’ll support McCain in the General election.

But if Romney wins the nomination, I’m voting democrat for the first time, to keep Romney out.


243 posted on 01/30/2008 1:33:07 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: HoustonTech

I agree with a lot of what you say.

When I saw Hunter go nowhere for a long time, I made Fred my second choice. I agree it APPEARS NOW that McCain has the best chance to win. Given the unpredictable nature of politics and months of time until the election, I’m not confident that will hold. I can envision scenarios in which the McCain candidacy collapses during the general. Concerning Romney, I think he has a better chance than appears now, or more potential than he has reached in current polls.

But neither is anything but a crap shoot.

The problem with McCain is that even if he stayed viable and won, what you would get in governance would come as a nasty result for us conservatives, I fear.


244 posted on 01/30/2008 1:34:32 PM PST by txrangerette (Anyone, ANYONE but McCain/Huckabee)
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To: tortdog

I’m not sure how Romney is better than McCain when it comes to the economy. McCain has been pretty conservative fiscally. I think Romney’s strong point when compared to McCain would be his executive experience. McCain really doesn’t match Romney there. But I suspect McCain would be a bull dog when it comes to balancing the budget, and he has some pretty good econmy experts backing him.

McCains big weaknesses would like in other areas (CFR being the biggest IMO).


245 posted on 01/30/2008 1:34:42 PM PST by HoustonTech
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
Jews are used to Christians in the white house, Catholics are used to protestants in the white house. There are some anti-Christian republicans who would be driven away, but that would probably be more than made up by Christians drawn from the rat party who are disenchanted with the choices they have.
246 posted on 01/30/2008 1:36:58 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: HoustonTech
The fact that you think a persons' religion is an "irrelavant factor" shows that you have an intolerance for those who do not consider it irrelavant.

You're stretching now. Is that fact I don't think a candidate's soda choice is important somehow bigoted towards those who drink Coke every day? Or does his soda choice really, really matter in the grand scheme of things?

As I said, your definition is a lot different than mine.

247 posted on 01/30/2008 1:37:35 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: HoustonTech

My objection to McCain goes so far beyond any particular issue or issues.

He loves to partner and pal up with liberal Dems. He loves to spit in the eye of conservatives. He loves the acclaim of the MSM. He isn’t trustworthy even if he promises something. He is a megalomaniac in my view who just must grab hold of this ultimate prize for ego gratification.

So he’ll be trying to do and say whatever it takes to win.


248 posted on 01/30/2008 1:40:30 PM PST by txrangerette (Anyone, ANYONE but McCain/Huckabee)
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To: jdm
The key to this whole thing now for Romney is to get the evangelicals to snap out of it and go to the Mitt camp instead of Huckabee....or I be pulling the lever for every Republican on the ballot except the one for President if McCain is the nominee......

YOU MIGHT ASK WHY?..... because when this country goes to hell I want a Democrat to get the blame....not a republican and once it's proved McStain can't win as a RINO then maybe we'll see an authentic conservative on the ballot in four years or maybe Romney will be waiting in the wings for his turn.

249 posted on 01/30/2008 1:42:53 PM PST by thingumbob (Dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!)
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To: DannyTN

The election is rigged.

McCain wants amnesty for illegals, Giuliani wanted to give them welfare and Huckabee wants to give both.

They suck.


250 posted on 01/30/2008 1:49:03 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: truthkeeper
McCain's 2006 ACU rating is 65. It's the same as some democrats, and lower than Chuck Hagel. And we are thinking of nominating him? Lunacy.

Why would dems and independents want our version of a democrat (a craggy, old, mean-spirited, white guy) instead of their own version (Hillary or Obama)? If there is so little difference between them -- the people will pick one of them because they are newer, fresher and promise change. It's just human nature.

251 posted on 01/30/2008 1:53:31 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (www.MittReport.com)
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To: txrangerette

I don’t disagree with you in the main. I long for someone better, but between him and Romney I’m slightly more inclined to McCain—but only slightly. I could easily change mind mind if circumstances change.


252 posted on 01/30/2008 1:59:47 PM PST by HoustonTech
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To: DannyTN

If McCain is your second choice, and your fine with McCain, then yes, a vote for Huckabee doesn’t bother you.

For those who have the reverse view, it’s otherwise.

thanks for your reply..


253 posted on 01/30/2008 2:00:49 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Your posts 160 and 204 are excellent arguments in favor of Romney. I would add that between McCain and Romney, only Romney has executive experience. The only thing McCain has run are people out of his office.

McCain is incapable of controlling his temper, which forces him into taking ridiculous positions, especially with regard to curbing free speech, 527s (Swift Boat Vets) and blogs (FR message boards) that threaten his incumbency with criticism.

Furthermore, McCain has consistently sought to undermine the Bush presidency, his brand of revenge for South Carolina 2000. Yet he will never admit that the reason the vote went against him was his spurious attacks on Bush as being another Clinton. A backlash developed and McCain lost.

Meanwhile, the press loves McCain because they will be able to defeat him so easily when they drag out his past problems. I say, No Thanks.

I'd rather go with Romney who understood the Massachusetts voter and delivered. Now he has a national constituency. It's my judgment that he will again be able to deliver.

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254 posted on 01/30/2008 2:03:24 PM PST by OESY
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To: americanophile
"Huckabee has no chance, and never did, and a general election, he would be slaughtered like a squirrel."

You forgot the best part:

And fried in a popcorn popper!

255 posted on 01/30/2008 2:19:07 PM PST by Jmouse007
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Red,

Disagree.

Bush dealt with Mexico’s leader directly and
had experience through his father’s presidency -
including friendships with world leaders.

Was Mitt dealing with the leaders of Canada when
he was raising taxes as Governor of MA??

So in short, I disagree. My own evaluation.

Obviously, you hold a different view and would
be willing to trust a novice. OK. I have no problem
with you holding a different view.

By Tuesday February 5th, the die will be cast
and FR will become a much less turbulent place...
well, at least once the grieving process is over
for some group of us.

best,
ampu


256 posted on 01/30/2008 2:26:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: tortdog

>Mitt is a no show, when it comes to war

“And Bush fought how many wars?”

Bush served in the National Guard, as you know.

But, my comment you referenced was aimed at saying
he had no credentials to point to... not that he
hadn’t served.

best,
ampu


257 posted on 01/30/2008 2:28:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: jdm

What Romney needs to do is kick McCain’s ass off the stage.


258 posted on 01/30/2008 2:29:20 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: meowmeow
"It's the fad of Scorched Earth Citizenship."

I would always vote for the lesser of two evils even if my preferred candidate didn't win. It's just I view the democrats as less evil than a Romney presidency because I don't want to legitimize mormonism in this country.

259 posted on 01/30/2008 2:29:22 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“I don’t want to legitimize mormonism in this country”

Wow. Stupidity runs supreme.


260 posted on 01/30/2008 2:30:35 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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