Posted on 01/30/2008 10:02:49 AM PST by jdm
>I say that supporting a candidate based on religious preference or any other all-but-meaningless reason is also bigotry.
I wouldn’t say that. Religious bigotry is accompanied with hate and disdain. So while voting FOR someone is evidence of religious discrimination, it’s not evidence of religious bigotry, i.e., all religious bigotry is religious discrimination, but not all religious discrimination is religious bigotry.
>I don’t like any of the remaining candidates, but I think McCain has the best chance of beating the Democrats in November.
I think that you are right, to a degree. But I think that Romney had a decent shot of pulling off economic conservatives from the Demos.
But Romney is dead. He’s not even convincing GOP voters that he is better than McCain when it comes to the economy.
GOP voters can be really dumb, I must admit.
I’m fine with that. I hope Huckabee proves you wrong, but if he can’t, and his candidates go to McCain, then fine, I’ll support McCain in the General election.
But if Romney wins the nomination, I’m voting democrat for the first time, to keep Romney out.
I agree with a lot of what you say.
When I saw Hunter go nowhere for a long time, I made Fred my second choice. I agree it APPEARS NOW that McCain has the best chance to win. Given the unpredictable nature of politics and months of time until the election, I’m not confident that will hold. I can envision scenarios in which the McCain candidacy collapses during the general. Concerning Romney, I think he has a better chance than appears now, or more potential than he has reached in current polls.
But neither is anything but a crap shoot.
The problem with McCain is that even if he stayed viable and won, what you would get in governance would come as a nasty result for us conservatives, I fear.
I’m not sure how Romney is better than McCain when it comes to the economy. McCain has been pretty conservative fiscally. I think Romney’s strong point when compared to McCain would be his executive experience. McCain really doesn’t match Romney there. But I suspect McCain would be a bull dog when it comes to balancing the budget, and he has some pretty good econmy experts backing him.
McCains big weaknesses would like in other areas (CFR being the biggest IMO).
You're stretching now. Is that fact I don't think a candidate's soda choice is important somehow bigoted towards those who drink Coke every day? Or does his soda choice really, really matter in the grand scheme of things?
As I said, your definition is a lot different than mine.
My objection to McCain goes so far beyond any particular issue or issues.
He loves to partner and pal up with liberal Dems. He loves to spit in the eye of conservatives. He loves the acclaim of the MSM. He isn’t trustworthy even if he promises something. He is a megalomaniac in my view who just must grab hold of this ultimate prize for ego gratification.
So he’ll be trying to do and say whatever it takes to win.
YOU MIGHT ASK WHY?..... because when this country goes to hell I want a Democrat to get the blame....not a republican and once it's proved McStain can't win as a RINO then maybe we'll see an authentic conservative on the ballot in four years or maybe Romney will be waiting in the wings for his turn.
The election is rigged.
McCain wants amnesty for illegals, Giuliani wanted to give them welfare and Huckabee wants to give both.
They suck.
Why would dems and independents want our version of a democrat (a craggy, old, mean-spirited, white guy) instead of their own version (Hillary or Obama)? If there is so little difference between them -- the people will pick one of them because they are newer, fresher and promise change. It's just human nature.
I don’t disagree with you in the main. I long for someone better, but between him and Romney I’m slightly more inclined to McCain—but only slightly. I could easily change mind mind if circumstances change.
If McCain is your second choice, and your fine with McCain, then yes, a vote for Huckabee doesn’t bother you.
For those who have the reverse view, it’s otherwise.
thanks for your reply..
McCain is incapable of controlling his temper, which forces him into taking ridiculous positions, especially with regard to curbing free speech, 527s (Swift Boat Vets) and blogs (FR message boards) that threaten his incumbency with criticism.
Furthermore, McCain has consistently sought to undermine the Bush presidency, his brand of revenge for South Carolina 2000. Yet he will never admit that the reason the vote went against him was his spurious attacks on Bush as being another Clinton. A backlash developed and McCain lost.
Meanwhile, the press loves McCain because they will be able to defeat him so easily when they drag out his past problems. I say, No Thanks.
I'd rather go with Romney who understood the Massachusetts voter and delivered. Now he has a national constituency. It's my judgment that he will again be able to deliver.
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You forgot the best part:
And fried in a popcorn popper!
Red,
Disagree.
Bush dealt with Mexico’s leader directly and
had experience through his father’s presidency -
including friendships with world leaders.
Was Mitt dealing with the leaders of Canada when
he was raising taxes as Governor of MA??
So in short, I disagree. My own evaluation.
Obviously, you hold a different view and would
be willing to trust a novice. OK. I have no problem
with you holding a different view.
By Tuesday February 5th, the die will be cast
and FR will become a much less turbulent place...
well, at least once the grieving process is over
for some group of us.
best,
ampu
>Mitt is a no show, when it comes to war
“And Bush fought how many wars?”
Bush served in the National Guard, as you know.
But, my comment you referenced was aimed at saying
he had no credentials to point to... not that he
hadn’t served.
best,
ampu
What Romney needs to do is kick McCain’s ass off the stage.
I would always vote for the lesser of two evils even if my preferred candidate didn't win. It's just I view the democrats as less evil than a Romney presidency because I don't want to legitimize mormonism in this country.
“I don’t want to legitimize mormonism in this country”
Wow. Stupidity runs supreme.
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