Seven good reasons to support Mike Huckabee [be sure to read reason number seven]

The dark and jumbled recesses of my aging feeble brain | January 31, 2008 | Jim Robinson

[dforest]

Well it didn’t happen until Reagan.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>Romney has had a change of heart and is now pro-life.
>>>>>President Reagan also had a change of heart and became pro-life.

For reasons of political expediency, Willard the Myth said he became pro-life just a few years ago. For 35 years prior, Romney was FOR abortion rights, FOR Roe v Wade and FOR abortion on demand.

Reagan never supported abortion on demand or Roe v Wade. NEVER!

[dan1123]

Great line.

[dan1123]

Well, I think Huckabee is the only one raising taxes and using my money to send Illegals to school, while doing nothing to further the education of real Arkansas folks.

Nice mischaracterization of the facts.

[RightOnline]

I’ve been thinking a lot on this....and I tend to agree with your conclusion(s), Jim. Guess that’s no surprise. :)

[cicada]

It is a nightmare.

Here in Alabama, Huckabee and McCain are in pretty much a dead heat, so I had already been thinking of giving Mike my vote, just to make sure McCain doesn’t get our delegates.

[mowells2]

No Sir i havn’t searched for such a video and if there were such a video (which im sure there is not) i would not post it .
Im simply trying to get an answer to my original question.

Did you vote for President Reagan or was this single issue a deal breaker for him as-well?

[Jim Robinson]

With all due respect, you might try getting this through YOUR thick head:

Free Republic is a pro-life and liberty site. We are here to support and fight for pro-life and liberty causes and candidates.

Romney has a history of running on the pro-abortion platform:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

We do not surrender to the culture of death! Not now, not ever!

[Congressman Billybob]

That is not “polling data.” That is the actual votes that Paul has received in actual primaries. To paraphrase Sally Fields, Ron Paul could say, “You don’t like me. You really don’t like me.”

John / Billybob

[Tramonto]

I believe a man who would say the things he said on that video is an evil bastard.

I couldn't agree more. Those youtube videos of Romney uncut and uncensored are powerful.

[GinaLolaB]

I don’t understand it, frankly. It’s the level of hatred that puzzles me.

I am not sure why they hate Huck but I think it is because he is populist that is against their globalists trade deals (He is not against trade, just the big globalism). Thats my opinion.

[dan1123]

Yeah, I liked the end of the debates:

COOPER: Would, and if so, why -- why would Ronald Reagan endorse you? Would Ronald Reagan endorse you? And if so, why?

ROMNEY: Absolutely. Ronald Reagan would look at the issues that are being debated right here and say, one, we're going to win in Iraq, and I'm not going to walk out of Iraq until we win in Iraq.

Ronald Reagan would say lower taxes. Ronald Reagan would say lower spending.

Ronald Reagan would -- is pro-life. He would also say I want to have an amendment to protect marriage. Ronald Reagan would say, as I do, that Washington is broken. And like Ronald Reagan, I'd go to Washington as an outsider -- not owing favors, not lobbyists on every elbow. I would be able to be the independent outsider that Ronald Reagan was, and he brought change to Washington.

Ronald Reagan would say, yes, let's drill in ANWR. Ronald Reagan would say, no way are we going to have amnesty again. Ronald Reagan saw it, it didn't work. Let's not do it again.

Ronald Reagan would say no to a 50-cent-per-gallon charge on Americans for energy that the rest of the world doesn't have to pay.

Ronald Reagan would have said absolutely no way to McCain- Feingold.

I would be with Ronald Reagan. And this party, it has a choice, what the heart and soul of this party is going to be, and it's going to have to be in the house that Ronald Reagan built.

MCCAIN: Ronald Reagan would not approve of someone who changes their positions depending on what the year is.

Ronald Reagan -- Ronald Reagan came with an unshakable set of principles, and there were many times, like when he had to deploy the (INAUDIBLE) cruise missile to Europe and there were hundreds of thousands of demonstrators against it, he stood with it. Ronald Reagan had a deal in Reykjavik that everybody wanted him to take, but he stuck with his principles.

I think he knows that I stick with my principles. I put my political career on the line because I knew what would happen if we failed in Iraq.

I hope that the experience I had serving as a foot soldier in his revolution would make him proud for me to continue that legacy of sticking to principle and doing what you believe in, no matter what.

HUCKABEE: I think it would be incredibly presumptuous and even arrogant for me to try to suggest what Ronald Reagan would do, that he would endorse any of us against the others.

Let me just say this, I'm not going to pretend he would endorse me. I wish he would. I would love that, but I endorse him, and I'm going to tell you why.

It wasn't just his specific policies, but Ronald Reagan was something more than just a policy wonk. He was a man who loved this country, and he inspired this country to believe in itself again.

What made Ronald Reagan a great president was not just the intricacies of his policies, though they were good policies. It was that he loved America and saw it as a good nation and a great nation because of the greatness of its people.

And if we can recapture that, that's when we recapture the Reagan spirit. It's that spirit that has a can-do attitude about America's futures and that makes us love our country whether we're Democrats or Republicans. And that's what I believe Ronald Reagan did -- he brought this country back together and made us believe in ourselves.

And whether he believes in us, I hope we still believe in those things which made him a great leader and a great American.

[Puddleglum]

I’m gonna vote for whoever doesn’t give McCain my state (Oklahoma). I think that means I’ll vote for Huckabee since Romney doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance here (though I like Romney and Huck about the same, maybe Romney a nod more).

[BufordP]

Dearest, my comment was in response to JR’s article.

If what is happening on FR is any indication of what’s going on everywhere else, the world has gone mad and McCain will win the primary.

[Palladin]

I like Huckabee. He is charming, a great debater, pro-life...and he has that rarest of gifts among the candidates—a real sense of humor.

That said, does he have the money and the organization to get the nomination? Then to go up against the Hillary Machine?

I get queasy when I think about the Clintons in the White House again.

I wish Huckabee well on Super Tuesday.

Thank God that Giuliani bombed out in Florida!

[Jim Robinson]

There is no single issue making one a conservative, but there are some positions that absolutely will knock one out of the running. Abortion being one. If Reagan was an abortionist, then no conservative should ever have voted for him. But, obviously, he was pro-life and conservatives overwhelmingly supported him. Still do.

[DoughtyOne]

Jim, I don’t think Huck has a chance at this point and that leaves it to McCain and Romney.

I think you're on target here, in that Huckabee cannot get elected.  And that leaving only McCain and Romney, we're in a terrible stituion.

Romney, while not our first choice, is heads and tails above McCain and I believe will govern much more closely to our ideals.

If this were a situation where a guy had a come to Jesus moment on one or two things, I could buy off on it.  Mitt has had a wholesale change across the board.  This puts me in the position of having to make defenses of him by measures, because he may or may not be better than McCain.

If he holds to his platform, he might be okay.  Who knows what convoluted logic he may employ to come to a decision that seems implied by his platform but wasn't specifically spelled out.  We don't know.

A McCain presidency will decimate most of what we hold dear and usher in an era of “let’s make a deal with the kennedy wing” republican politics.

I don't disagree here.  I cannot say that Romney wouldn't do the same thing.  That was a picture of Ted Kennedy with a big smile on his face standing right behind Mitt Romney as he signed into law the Ma. Healthcare Plan.  I'm sure if you were to check into it, the history of those liberals on that platform would gag most of the folks on this forum.  There he was, Mr. Bipartisanship, Mitt Romney.

We will NEVER KNOW what he is going to do, but I got a feeling much of it were not going to like.

I would only disagree in that we do know what he's going to do.  He's going to sell out conservatism at every turn.  You'll get no arguement there, except to say that I think McCain is far worse than you have stated.  Could you state it cleary enough?  Probably not.  He's a democrat.  He will govern like one if given the chance.  I will not vote for him and neither will other conservatives.  He's DOA at the ballot box.

I understand you might not feel you can support Mitt over his flip flopping on abortion, but I do believe what he had to do in Mass. was simple political reality in such a lefty state. I think his heart is and has been in the right place and without the necessity of assuaging pro choice voters he will govern they way you would want him to and not just on this point but many others.

I doubt seriously that Mitt was elected based on his abortion stance.  Let's face it, if abortion was the primary issue, Mitt would never have been governor.  He was elected to be fiscally responsible, or on some other issue.  If you wish to make the case he was elected for his stance on this, I would consider it to damage your case for him.

Remember, we can hold his feet to the fire the way we did with Bush on Alito and immigration. The imperial presidency of John McCain will never react positively to such interference in his reign.

I agree with this.  It's my opinion that conservatives will never get behind these men in numbers significant enough to put them in the White House.

We discussed once how one of the important benefits, maybe the most important, of holding the White House are the SC nominations. I am confident that with Romney we will get the nominees we need...McCain is a crap shoot at best.

With McCain, you would simple look at Ted Kennedy's short list and it would match John's probably eight out of ten or more.

I am not impressed by what I have read of Romney's just selections in Ma.  Have you seen something that makes you more confident than I?  I mean something more than what he says he'll do now.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1962819/posts?page=430#430

Did you believe him and what he said in that video?

He's a grown man in a public setting making emphatic statements.  Yes I do.  His embelishments leave little doubt that he either believes what he is saying or is the consumate liar.  Either way I couldn't support him based on this issue.

Bob, don't you think you gain more by being honest with people, then selling yourself on the positive aspects of your beliefs across the board?

You may not be agreed with on abortion.  Okay, sell yourself as a businessman and your fiscal acuity.  Sell yourself on education or a bunch of other important issues.  Sell yourself on caring about the family around the dinner table, and wanting to give them power over their lives with lower taxes and a better future for their kids, and be specific.

I have never bought off on the idea we have to be ashamed of our ideals in any setting.  Even people who say they believe in abortion, are shocked to know some 40,000,000 of them per performed in the U.S. since Roe vs Wade.  Tell them that your goal is to try to find ways to reduce that number if you can't touch them in other ways.  It might surprise people to know that by a very wide margin, even those who support abortion think there are far too many of them.  We have commonality there.  When talking to a black group, you can explain how they are under represented in today's society because of the millions who have been terminated pre-birth.  Isn't that the ultimate racism?  Genocide.

That's how you address issues if you're a conservative.  You don't rattle off the most radical liberal agenda, then say that you're going to protect it as it exsists today, and that even kids can get abortions without parental consent, and you'll make sure that doesn't change.

[DoughtyOne]

I will not vote for a democrat(R). End of discussion.

[Diplomat]

Ronald Reagan may never have supported abortion, but 2 out of his 3 Supreme Court placements most certainly did/do support abortion and have the record to prove it.

So if we truly want to end this evil called abortion, how do we go about it? Ronald Reagan, it can be argued, enabled its continuance as settled case law with his terrible judges. George Bush has been way better than Reagan on this front.

Last night Huckabee had a chance to prove he would actually do something about abortion as president by answering the Sandra Day O’Conner question. He lacked the courage to state she was a bad choice or a good choice. Can someone find the debate transcript and post Romney’s and Huckabee’s answer to that question?

[dforest]

I don’t hate Huck. he is a really good speaker. I resent him for using religion and appealing to a small block of voters only. It is true he was pushed by the MSM just for that reason. A reason to tear into Christians and force a religious battle in the GOP. His supporters have waged a battle right here with Mormans, all GOP, no side looking good. Now thats detrimental.

I was starting to have some respect for him until he blew it by lying for McCain. He also says he is Christian, but says some pretty snarky things towards his competition. He also plays the same old typical campaign dirty tricks just the same as all the others. Just a few reasons why he isn’t popular.

I feel that people see him as an opportunist, his record in Arkansas wasn’t too conservative either.

He seems to revile people with money, but fails to understand that his stance on immigration rivals McCain. Other than that, he is probably a friendly guy just trying to make a living.