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Judges: 'Gay' Exposure OK for Kindergartners
World Net Daily ^ | 02/01/2008 | RTO

Posted on 02/01/2008 7:06:42 PM PST by RTO

In a case that could wind up in the U.S. Supreme Court, an appeals panel upheld dismissal of a lawsuit by Massachusetts parents seeking to prevent discussion of homosexual families in their children's elementary school classrooms.

The 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday agreed with a judge's decision last year that a school can expose children to contrary ideas without violating their parents' rights to exercise religious beliefs.

Lynch reasoned that schools must accept the Massachusetts high court's groundbreaking 2003 decision ruling "that the state constitution mandates the recognition of same-sex marriage."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: education; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; massachusetts; perversion
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To: AKSurprise

Here some authoritative research for you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961207/posts


101 posted on 02/01/2008 9:33:55 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: wintertime

Conservatives are too busy... for reason (Choose one)

A. Working two jobs to support their families.

B. Struggling to maintain some sense of domestic normalcy in an insane world.

C. Constantly battling against judicial fiat imposed upon their children and livelihoods.

D. Fighting each other because their supposed representative party, the GOP, endlessly throws RINO bait at them for candidates.

E. All of the above.


102 posted on 02/01/2008 9:39:58 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: hercuroc

The court disagreed. Merely exposing students to “views that are contrary to their religious beliefs” does not infringe on their religious freedom, the court said. Plus, there was no evidence that any student “was compelled to disavow his or her religious beliefs” or to “endorse homosexuality.”

However, all over the nation kids are having to sing ‘O Holiday Tree’ because ‘O Christmas Tree’ is too offensive, the mere word Christmas was removed from our kids’ school calendar, again too offensive, Las Cruces New Mexico was attacked for having two crosses in the town logo...crosses are too offensive for the sensibilities of the lunatic separation of church and state extremists, Boy Scouts are a hate group because they don’t condone gays; all because Christians are too “offensive”.

If I state ‘Under God’ in the pledge, somehow this DOES infringe on another’s rights?

In other words there’s a plain and blatant double standard.

In other words, Jesus Christ himself is the root of hate in this country for these Godless moonbats!

And we can surely expect more of these judges under a Clinton redux debacle!


103 posted on 02/01/2008 9:45:01 PM PST by tpanther
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To: RTO
Romney endorsed “civil unions,” which amounts to nothing less than marriage through the back door.

... so to speak.

O Father of our city, whence came such wickedness among thy Latin shepherds? How did such a lust possess thy grandchildren, O Gradivus? Behold! Here you have a man of high birth and wealth being handed over in marriage to a man and yet neither shakest thy helmet, nor smitest the earth with thy spear, nor yet protestest to thy Father? Away with thee then; begone from the broad acres of that Martial Plain which thou hast forgotten! - Juvenal, Satire II

... 2000 year old hate speech

104 posted on 02/01/2008 9:46:38 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dsutah

Take your schools and your country back!

Talk to parents, get involved in PTA’s, start small groups of parents, pool resources, take turns every month speaking up, start a community movement of sane parents to stop the nonsense! FIGHT!

Is there some reason sane people should be forced to pay for private schools while the Godless PC moonbat lunatics get to continue to hijack public schools and spew forth their psychotic agenda unchallenged? NOOOOOOO!!!!!

Makes ZERO sense!

If you get sued...call these guys!

www.thomasmore.org

or these:

www.aclj.org

You are NOT alone!


105 posted on 02/01/2008 9:49:11 PM PST by tpanther
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Your pointy head points in the right direction too.


106 posted on 02/01/2008 9:53:40 PM PST by FreePoster
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To: RTO

Parents should band together to keep their kids out until the state comes to its senses.

If it were my kid, they would be in a private school immediately. Otherwise home schooling, otherwise a coop home schooling plan.


107 posted on 02/01/2008 10:10:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Wanted: Party, f/t, cons, refs g/b 20yrs, no RINOs, no amnesty sptrs, 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: ichabod1

What I am finding out is that Romney wasn’t responsible for one G.D. thing that happened in his state while he was governor. What the hell was he doing, playing golf 9 to 5 m-fri?

Seriously, issue after issue in Ma. Romney wasn’t responsible.

Man, I’d love to have that job.


108 posted on 02/01/2008 10:13:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Wanted: Party, f/t, cons, refs g/b 20yrs, no RINOs, no amnesty sptrs, 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: RTO
THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA
109 posted on 02/01/2008 10:14:10 PM PST by DakotaRed (Keep following the media as they sell out America)
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To: ichabod1

Now, that’s an even scarier thought than this article!


110 posted on 02/01/2008 10:16:31 PM PST by LibertyRocks ("Islam - The Religion of Pieces" -- quote from LR's "Infidel & Proud" Daughter)
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To: RTO

why, the children I know, laughed at the idea of being gay.


111 posted on 02/01/2008 10:17:42 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: dr_lew

A slightly difficult read, but strange the old axiom... the more things change the more they remain the same... “There is nothing new under the Sun... All is vanity”

More for your perusal:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/juv-sat2eng.html


112 posted on 02/01/2008 10:28:26 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: DakotaRed

Thanks... already got a copy years ago from the Massachusetts chapter of Concerned Women for America. I’ve been out of touch with them for awhile. But we used to do a lot of work at public events and conservative rallies. http://www.massnews.com is a good source for the fight in MA... It is the ONLY conservative paper in the state.


113 posted on 02/01/2008 10:38:26 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: RTO
A slightly difficult read,...

Indeed, but what makes it difficult makes it rewarding. It is a glimpse into an alien, yet familiar, world.

And BTW, I typed it in from my Loeb hard copy!

114 posted on 02/01/2008 10:41:42 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: RTO

>> that a school can expose children to contrary ideas without violating their parents’ rights

This is really, really poor judgment.


115 posted on 02/01/2008 10:43:47 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: RTO; All
To begin with, Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love God with all your being.

Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexuals had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

Also, consider how judges are now reflecting the evil of the Pharisees of Jesus' time. More specifically, consider how Mark 7:1-13, particularly verses 10-12, shows that Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees for essentially driving a wedge between parents and their children as our judges are now doing, basically nullifying the 5TH COMMANDMENT, to honor your parents.

Finally, regarding Christian taxpayers who are unwillingly helping to pay for public schools to expose their children to homosexuality, Jefferson addressed this situation in general when he wrote his Bill for Religious Freedom as evidenced by the following excerpt.

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545 http://www.religioustolerance.org/virg_bil.htm
As a side note, I also won't overlook the fact that Christian taxpayers have been unwillingly helping to pay for public schools teach scientifically unverified macroevolution ideas for the past several decades, such ideas actually being a politically correct attack on Christianity.
116 posted on 02/01/2008 10:47:40 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Graybeard58

Admin mod fixed it, whatever it was. Guess that’s what “probation” looks like! Maybe I got flagged for saying the H word (as in WTH) the other day? :)


117 posted on 02/02/2008 3:23:56 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: MaxMax; wintertime
Pull them out, bankrupt the system then start over.

I'm not at all sure that would work. A mass withdrawal would be followed by a massive tax increase federally and a million local increases.
Post 75 refers to the parental "addiction" to free govt babysitting; that is only half the problem, the other being the cash someone's getting when a school district receives $10,000 per child and spends hardly a fraction of it on appropriate expenditures. You take a kid out of the system, you are taking that $10,000 away. I have seen the curriculum, the teachers, the services of the public school system in our area, and they are not as good as the parochial high school charging less than half that.
Sadly, wintertime, I must agree with you. Parents close their eyes to the shortcomings and the outright evils of public school, because they are getting free babysitting in the short term. It's a fool's paradise.

Parents, if you send your children to public school, you are permitting your children to be indoctrinated and reared by the same scoundrels who are chewing away at the foundations of this country in the halls of Congress, and in the courts, and in the media. You are enlisting your children as foot soldiers in the war against America, and trusting to fortune that they will miraculously come by the good sense to reject the role. Would you throw them in the pond and trust them to dog-paddle, or tell yourself, "Oh it's okay, OUR pond is shallow!"

118 posted on 02/02/2008 3:47:20 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: kinoxi

You forgot the homosexual judges.


119 posted on 02/02/2008 3:56:01 AM PST by nygoose
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To: dsutah; wintertime
Ok, then where should we send them to? I’m sure there are dozens of people who would love to stay home and teach their kids, or send them to private schools. The problem is that private school education is too high for many people. Also, there are many people that have to work to support their kids. They haven’t got a choice.

Most do, they just think they don't, and they don't think long or very far.

To give just one example, a woman I know has five children and she works, as does her husband. They have three cars. If they disposed of one car, they'd save nearly $400 a month on the payment, never mind the gas and insurance. That would put two of their children in a good Catholic high school, or three in grade school. But they don't want to give up that car. Nor do they want to give up the gadgets they enjoy and the vacations they take regularly, and the clubs they frequent, and the movies, and the gasoline and the credit card rates that keep them rolling along. All this takes a second income: hers.

Now imagine she had only two children. She'd still have a job, because she wants the extra cash; she'd still have the extra car, and it would take them places. They'd have more stuff and go to more movies and restaurants and clubs. Maybe buy that boat they always talk about. She'd still moan that there isn't enough money in the budget to put either child in private school. And that doesn't even take into account the scholarships available. (The Catholic high school here is around $200 a month but many families pay only half that, and some attend on full scholarship.)

As wintertime pointed out, parents get addicted to free babysitting. They are also very reluctant to think about giving up vacations, toys, extra cars, status symbols, gasoline, movies, restaurants, and the like; all far more expendable than their children's minds and destinies.

Conservatives bemoan the nanny state, but they give it the biggest endorsement of all.

Your mileage may vary. I'm certain it does! But if parents will start thinking that it really matters where the kids go to school, if they take the blinders off and actually set to work on the challenge of educating them, they will find a way.

120 posted on 02/02/2008 4:38:45 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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