Posted on 02/02/2008 12:44:12 PM PST by Liz
If bush doesn’t like Mitt’s stance then it’s all the more reason to vote for Mitt! Thanks JORGE for pointing that out!
Okay, we get the message. YOU don’t like Romney. You can’t possibly be FOR McCain....
Huckabee just signed Jeff Sessions immigration pledge today. I think he will handle this problem differently as a President from what he did as a Governor. As a Governor he had to do what the federal government mandated as do all governors.
My biggest gripe with Bush has been the border issue, so I am very happy to see Huckabee sign the pledge.
Have any of the other candidates signed? Does anyone know? I did a search but didn’t find where anyone else has signed unless I missed it somewhere...lol
Bush forgets that it was not his Republican elites who put him and kept him in office, but millions of nobodies like us.
His elite buddies were the ones that advised him and mismanaged his campaigns, especially 2004, to the point where he almost gave away a sure landslide over a moron to a near loss.
Bush should not be miffed at Romney over immigration - it is we who should be miffed at Bush for the way he is trying to force illegal immigration down our throats so that his Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street buddies can have cheap labor and huge profits from that labor.
McCain stands up and tells middle class Americans that their lost jobs aren’t coming back and suck it up.
I’m looking forward to telling a defeated McCain that his job ain’t coming back and he should suck it up.
Why are all these prominent people our there PIMPING for McCain? Money, power, top positions or all of those mentioned?
Borders, language, culture.
Something McLame, Huckafeller, and Jorge don’t seem to understand.
Most politicians are a cross between Chameleons and shape shifters. You will never know exactly what they are because they are always changing. I bet Daddy Bush is proud of his little boy.
Which is just not acceptable to teh Establishment, country-club Republicans like Bush and McCain.
Great news! Go, Mitt!
The presence of Juan Hernandez in the background of the McCain campaign tells us that John McCain is as weak on border security now as he ever was. Dr. Juan Hernandez, a dual citizen of the US and Mexico, and past member of Vicente Fox’s Mexican government.....Hernandez is as open borders as you can get.
McCain should explain to voters/taxpayers Arizona's federal and state funding for the facilitation of border-crossing via the Arizona-Mexico Commission, and the Border Infrastructure Project implemented in collaboration with federal, state and local government agencies........that's OUR tax dollars. FROM THE ARIZONA-MEXICO COMMISSION WEB SITE http://www.azmc.org/ ---SNIP--
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THIS IS WHAT McCAIN SUPPORTS
Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion
Heritage Foundation | June 6, 2007 | Robert Rector
EXCERPT McCain is for S.1348, the Senate amnesty bill that was recently defeated. S.1348 would grant amnesty to nearly all illegal immigrants currently in the United States. Overall, the net cost to taxpayers is likely to be at least $2.6 trillion. Illegal immigrants generally have very low education levels. 61 percent of illegal immigrant adults lack a high school diploma. Illegal immigrants have a poverty level that is roughly twice that of native-born Americans.
The Senate's bill would offer amnesty and a path to citizenship to 12 to 12.5 million illegals currently in the U.S. In addition, its lax evidentiary standards would encourage millions more to apply for amnesty fraudulently. Because there is no numeric limit on the number of amnesties that could be granted under the bill, the actual numbers who would receive amnesty under the bill could be far higher.
Eligibility for government benefits means that the former illegal immigrant or his family members obtains the same benefits as a U.S. citizen would have. Children born within the United States to illegal immigrants, including Z visa holders, are potentially eligible for all welfare benefits from the moment of birth through the reat of their lives. In addition, adult Z visa holders and their foreign-born children will be eligible for medical care under the Medicaid Disproportionate Share Program. Z visa holders will be given lawful Social Security numbers which makes them eligible for two refundable tax credits: The Earned Income Tax Credit and the Additional Child Tax Credit. These credits provides cash welfare assistance...
Irrespective of employment history, amnesty recipients will become eligible for 60 different federal welfare programs five years after receiving legal permanent residence. When the amnesty recipients reach retirement age, total benefits received will OUTSTRIP TAXES PAID BY ROUGHLY SEVEN TO ONE. (Excerpt) Read more at heritage.org
lol!
AMNESTY IS FOREVER
The Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) bill [S. 2611] that passed in the Senate in 2006 with the support of Presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain contained provisions that would have legalized the status of the overwhelming majority of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country, i.e., amnesty, and provided them with a path to citizenship. The House never voted on the bill and it died.
Undaunted, in 2007 Senators McCain and Kennedy together with a small group of other senators circumvented the normal committee debate process and introduced directly into the Senate for a vote another CIR bill [S. 1348] that actually expanded the number of illegal aliens who would be rewarded with amnesty beyond the 2006 bill. They would be allowed to stay and work here after meeting certain conditions, e.g., pay fines, learn to speak English, understand American civics, etc., that mirrored similar provisions contained in the 1986 amnesty bill. And, as was the case in 1986, the illegal aliens would be offered a path to citizenship. The major difference is that President Reagan called the 1986 bill what it was, a one-time amnesty. The proponents of the proposed 2007 McCain-Kennedy CIR bill denied, and continue to deny, that their bill is amnesty.
The American people were not fooled by the Orwellian use of language to disguise what was being proposed. Despite strong-arm tactics to limit debate and amendments and to force a hurried vote, the 2007 CIR bill was defeated procedurally due to an unprecedented [and huge] public outcry that clearly had an effect on senators’ votes. The American people have spoken, but Presidential candidates Clinton, Obama, Edwards, McCain, Giuliani, and Huckabee still call for legalizing the status of most of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens, i.e., amnesty, which would be an unmitigated disaster for this country.
The irrevocable decision to legalize the status of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens would have direct and immediate consequences on the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who will be authorized entry as a result of this change of status. Robert Rector of The Heritage Foundation estimated that the 2006 CIR bill would have resulted in an additional 66 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years due to existing chain migration policies that allow legal permanent residents to sponsor family members for entry as part of family reunification. And the figure of 66 million is based on the conservative Census Bureau estimate of 11.9 million illegal aliens, and does not include the current annual intake of over a million legal immigrants. The numbers are staggering.
In analyzing the 2007 CIR bill, Rector stated, “The main fiscal impact of S. 1348 will occur through two mechanisms: (1) the grant of amnesty, with accompanying access to Social Security, Medicare and welfare benefits, to 12 million illegal immigrants who are overwhelmingly low skilled; and (2) a dramatic increase in chain immigration, which will also be predominantly low skilled.”
“The bottom line is that high school dropouts are extremely expensive to U.S. taxpayers. It does not matter whether the dropout comes from Ohio, Tennessee, or Mexico. It does matter that the Senate immigration bill would increase the future flow of poorly educated immigrants into the U.S. and grant amnesty and access to government benefits to millions of poorly educated illegal aliens already here. Such legislation would inevitably impose huge costs on U.S. taxpayers.” Heritage research has concluded that the cost of amnesty alone will be $2.6 trillion once the amnesty recipients reach retirement age.
In 1986 the U.S. Government estimated that one million people would apply for amnesty. The number turned out to be 2.7 million. If the current number of illegal aliens is closer to the 2005 Bear-Stearns report estimate of 20 million, the demographic and economic impact of amnesty will be exponentially greater than that estimated for an illegal alien population of 12 million. Without having reliable data on how many illegal aliens are in the country, it would be totally irresponsible to pass legislation that would grant legal status to untold millions regardless of the numbers. It is not the way to make good public policy.
President Reagan’s Attorney General, Ed Meese, stated, “The lesson from the 1986 experience is that such an amnesty did not solve the problem. There was extensive document fraud, and the number of people applying for amnesty far exceeded projections. And there was a failure of political will to enforce new laws against employers. After a brief slowdown, illegal immigration returned to high levels and continued unabated, forming the nucleus of today’s large population of illegal aliens. So here we are, 20 years later, having much the same debate and being offered much the same deal.”
Amnesty has a corrosive effect on the rule of law and is grossly unfair to the millions who have followed the rules and are waiting their turn overseas to enter legally. What kind of message does amnesty send to them and the many millions more who would like to enter the United States? Rewarding those who have entered our country illegally and broken our laws in multiple ways, e.g., ID theft, tax evasion, misuse of social security numbers, etc., will just encourage more people to enter our country illegally so they can take advantage of the next amnesty.
In addition to the huge costs associated with amnesty, there are national security concerns. An amnesty will make it easier for alien terrorists to operate in the United States by allowing them to fraudulently create “secure” IDs with ease. We would be conferring blanket legal status to millions of unknown and unknowable persons, thereby facilitating the movement and access of terrorists who entered the country illegally.
With a stroke of a pen, the legalization of the status of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens— plus the tens of millions more who will join them later legally—will have a profound and negative impact on this country for many generations to come. The efforts of state and local governments to control and limit the costs associated with illegal immigration would be undone overnight. And the burden on the taxpayer will increase. Amnesty is not an action that can be taken lightly or be reversed. Amnesty is forever.
Very interesting; Senator Sessions has been a stalwart objector to illegals and amnesty.
Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn Amendment (would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa). Republicans underlined:
COMPOSITE 
bttt!
Bush's losses have come due to the conservative base: Harriet Miers, Dubai Ports and immigration "reform".
So, I'm left with the thought that Bush is as dumb and clueless as the lefties claim, but the lefties are even dumber and more stupid than Bush, which allows Bush to still out maneuver the lefties.
Here's the Cluebat Mr President, there is one reason why Mitt Romney holds his position on immigration: It's what the vast majority of the American People demand. You tried in '06 and in '07 and the Senate tried again in '07 and you ALL failed with your amnesty bill. People want immigration laws enforced, not a Clintonian response to his campaign corruption by promoting Campaign Finance "Reform". Mr Bush, you don't enforce current immigration laws, why should anyone believe you will enforce the NEW laws. Oh, BTW, secure the friggin' border, before you get rightfully blamed for a terrorist attack launched across the border.
Yup. How dare Romney want our immigration laws enforced?
Bush can take his religous compassion and shove where the sun doesn’t shine.
What is more unbelievable are the people who continue to worship at the alter of Bush.
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