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Keyes: Romney responsible for same-sex marriage fiasco
Worldnetdaily ^ | February 3, 2008

Posted on 02/03/2008 4:31:28 AM PST by Tigen

Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes may not get invited to the televised debates but that doesn't mean he's going stay out of the fray or attack his opponents when he believes they've abandoned his party's values – particularly on the issue of same-sex marriage.

On his campaign website this week, Keyes blasted former Gov. Mitt Romney for being "single-handedly responsible for instituting same-sex marriage in Massachusetts" for the way he responded to a state court ruling in 2003.

"Most people are unaware of the way Massachusetts came to adopt same-sex marriage," the former Reagan administration diplomat said. "They think the state's Supreme Judicial Court forced it to happen. That's incorrect."

"The court merely issued an opinion stating that, in its view, the existing marriage law was unconstitutional because it failed to allow persons of the same sex to marry," Keyes said. "The court then gave the legislature 180 days to 'take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion' – implicitly telling lawmakers to come up with a new marriage statute."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; alankeyes; keyes; mittromney; romney
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To: trisham

LARGELY different than how the Cheney’s handled the situation.


121 posted on 02/04/2008 11:29:26 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: rbmillerjr; All

Let me ask you a question:

If there was a white guy with Dr. Keyes’ foreign policy resume, Reagan administration terrorist-fighting experience, knowledge of the world, understanding of the Constitution and its underlying principles, record as a champion of life and liberty and the sovereignty of the American people, and with his unequaled communication skills, would he or would he not, under the circumstances faced by Alan Keyes, already be President of the United States?

Just askin’.


122 posted on 02/04/2008 11:30:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: rintense

That’s right.


123 posted on 02/04/2008 11:30:50 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good grief. Playing the race card now?


124 posted on 02/04/2008 11:31:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: maui_hawaii
I pretty much gave up asking questions I wanted answers to.

Being called stupid, liar and whore and accused of spitting on Romney just for asking polite questions was too much.

Sure, some people are trouble makers and post bizarre things on threads, but to paint anyone that questions Romney’s records or who post facts his supporters want to hide with all the name calling is ridiculous

125 posted on 02/04/2008 11:31:52 AM PST by Syncro
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To: rintense

The Cheneys affirmed their daughter in her “lifestyle.” You obviously agree with that.

I don’t. And I most certainly don’t consider it a loving act to do so.


126 posted on 02/04/2008 11:32:12 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: trisham

It’s an honest question, one that at least deserves consideration.

Racism is so carefully masked in this society today, that it can be hard to discern. But it definitely still exists. I see it pop its ugly head up quite often.

But, Keyes does NOT play the race card. If he did, after the way the GOP has treated him, you’d see something completely different from the reality of where we are now.


127 posted on 02/04/2008 11:35:27 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: EternalVigilance
No, I affirm my unconditional love for my child. I won't agree with everything they do, and will more than likely be pissed at many things, but in the end, he/she is still my child.

What would Jesus do?

128 posted on 02/04/2008 11:41:22 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: Syncro
Sorry if I am jaded but the notion that some of these people a posting facts is laughable. They are trying to make up facts and post propaganda.

With that in mind what is your questions?

I will bet your question is not aimed to get at truth but rather to propel a pre existing bias.

129 posted on 02/04/2008 11:42:28 AM PST by maui_hawaii (the Clintons are in it for themselves, not for the country)
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To: EternalVigilance; All
"If there was a white guy with Dr. Keyes’ foreign policy resume, Reagan administration terrorist-fighting experience, knowledge of the world, understanding of the Constitution and its underlying principles, record as a champion of life and liberty and the sovereignty of the American people, and with his unequaled communication skills, would he or would he not, under the circumstances faced by Alan Keyes, already be President of the United States?"

To answer your question EV, you just have desribed, in almost perfect detail, EVERY John McCain for President 2008 political ad that has run on my televison in the last 48 hrs, with the words spoken my McCain himself.

...and AS USUAL, you never replied to the CBS article I posted, proving ANOTHER statement of yours regarding Keyes as false.

....you just pull out the ol' 8 page Keyes thingee AS USUAL.

EV, you AND Alan have had your "15 minutes" with this subject. It's over EV, and the sooner you start looking FORWARD, the better off you will be.

130 posted on 02/04/2008 11:43:54 AM PST by musicman
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To: rintense
I affirm my unconditional love for my child. I won't agree with everything they do, and will more than likely be pissed at many things, but in the end, he/she is still my child.

Well, interestingly, that's exactly what the man you are attacking has always done. Just not for yours or the public's consumption.

131 posted on 02/04/2008 11:43:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: musicman

Yeah, right. The Enemy of the First Amendment, John McCain, is a real champion of the Constitution. /s

I’ll state the obvious: they’re lying in their ads.

Conversely, Alan has actually walked the walk for several decades.


132 posted on 02/04/2008 11:46:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“...would he or would he not, under the circumstances faced by Alan Keyes, already be President of the United States?”

No. Being a conservative who voted for him in his 2 MD Senate races, he did well considering MD is a one Party state. He was eloquent, persuasive, and made sharp points in his debates. However, the Party has to prioritize who gets the bulk of the money in swing states or states where there is no incumbent. Maryland is a hopeless cause and when he didn’t get the money he though he deserved to get - he resorted to the same old tired calls of racism in the GOP. He lost me at that point. He has now been in about 4 major runs for office: 2 Senate, 2 President. A good conservative voice in the wilderness but no potential for anything other than that.


133 posted on 02/04/2008 11:56:11 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: rbmillerjr
No.

Well, that's an answer, one I hope you're correct about.

But I'll admit that I have serious doubts.

I must say, though, for the record, the bias against Alan has more to do with a bias against boldly-spoken conservative truth than anything else, by far.

134 posted on 02/04/2008 12:01:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: maui_hawaii
Sorry if I am jaded but the notion that some of these people a posting facts is laughable.

That's the broad brush attitude I run into all the time. Thanks for confirming. Unfortunatly reasoned debate isn't accepted in your camp. "Some" is a pretty big word.

They are trying to make up facts and post propaganda.

I wasn't talking about them. But that is all you see apparently.

With that in mind what is your questions?

I will bet your question is not aimed to get at truth but rather to propel a pre existing bias.

No, I deal in facts. But I don't think I will ask you any questions, thank you. Your post indicates bias and a desire to not communicate except by erroneous assumptions.

135 posted on 02/04/2008 12:14:01 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Blue Collar Republican
He could have used a veto.

Pray enlighten us. Where in the Massachusetts Constitution is the Governor given the veto over court rulings?

Or perhaps you are refering to vetoing bad legislation? Romney vetoed over 1,000 times. He was overridden by the Legislature over 700 times. How many vetoes has Bush used?

136 posted on 02/04/2008 12:25:43 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Syncro

Suit yourself. If you have questions ask away.


137 posted on 02/04/2008 12:29:18 PM PST by maui_hawaii (the Clintons are in it for themselves, not for the country)
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To: rollo tomasi
Did the SJC force Romney by gunpoint to sign the law?

Sign what law? Have you read the court decision? Until you do, I suggest that you stop buying into the pre-digested spin spewed forth by WND.

It wasn't the SCJ superceding the "other two", it was the SCJ interpreting the legal definition of "civil marriage" and the Legislature agreeing with their interpretation of existing law.

138 posted on 02/04/2008 12:30:42 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Tigen

A Keys/Paul ticket. Scary.


139 posted on 02/04/2008 12:32:09 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: ovrtaxt
Hmmmm. 180 days, and he issued the order in one month? well now.

Court decision: Nov. 18, 2003, with 180 day stay for legislative action. Order to issue valid licenses per existing law: effective May 17, 2004. Redo your math.

140 posted on 02/04/2008 12:42:10 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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