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Billionaire James Sorenson leaves his [entire] fortune to charity
Deseret Morning News ^ | Monday, Feb. 4, 2008 11:54 a.m. MST | By Jasen Lee

Posted on 02/04/2008 12:08:29 PM PST by Dr. Zzyzx

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To: trumandogz
Okay, then what is the point?

I have made it repeatedly in plain English on this thread.

41 posted on 02/04/2008 2:01:03 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: geezerwheezer

I need all the help I...I mean the cat, needs all the help it can get ;)


42 posted on 02/04/2008 2:05:47 PM PST by catbertz
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To: ckilmer
Milton Hershey is twirlin’ in his grave. The Hershey Foundation provided for fatherless boys by housing them in farm houses with caring house parents. Their education was provided through college, if desired. Political correctness has brought that fine bequest to a shameful screeching halt.
43 posted on 02/04/2008 2:08:00 PM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: socialismisinsidious
and the tax man gets....?

Whatever the going rate is for the Estate tax. What is it? 50-60%?

44 posted on 02/04/2008 2:10:35 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: rogue yam

That’s pretty much the way it goes. The kooks do follow the money. Ever see a gay takeover of a poor church in the slums? Nope. They go after the churches with endowments.


45 posted on 02/04/2008 2:17:04 PM PST by mathurine
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To: rogue yam

Okay, then feel free to leave your 4.5 Billion to anyone you choose.


46 posted on 02/04/2008 2:44:34 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: mathurine
They go after the churches with endowments.

St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral in Seattle is a classic example of this. It started with a gay Dean and eventually they ended up with a black, lesbian Director of Faith Formation who converted to Islam while still a member of the clergy there. They didn't even fire her (the Episcopal Bishop of Western Washington apparently saw no contradiction between Islam and Christianity). Eventually some Bishop from the East Coast (from whom the woman received her ordination) stepped in and "suspended" her in order to stanch the embarassing fallout arising from this travesty.

47 posted on 02/04/2008 4:22:57 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: trumandogz

Feel free to learn nothing.


48 posted on 02/04/2008 4:23:28 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Charitable Remainder Trust?

If so, it is a way the wealthy get out of paying estate taxes, and pass their wealth on to their progeny.

49 posted on 02/04/2008 4:31:31 PM PST by D Rider
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To: trumandogz
This would be the classic counter-example of the trend I have been describing here:

The John M. Olin Foundation was a grant-making foundation established in 1953 by John M. Olin, president of the Olin Industries chemical and munitions manufacturing businesses. The general purpose of the John M. Olin Foundation was to provide support for projects that reflected or were intended to strengthen the economic, political and cultural institutions upon which the American heritage of constitutional government and private enterprise is based. The Foundation also sought to promote a general understanding of these institutions by encouraging the thoughtful study of the connections between economic and political freedoms, and the cultural heritage that sustains them. Unlike most non-profit foundations, the John M. Olin Foundation was charged to spend all of its assets within a generation of Olin's death, for fear of mission drift over time. It made its last grant in the summer of 2005 and officially disbanded on November 29 of that year after having disbursed over $370 million in funding, primarily to conservative think tanks, media outlets, and law programs at influential universities. The Foundation is most notable for its early support and funding of the law and economics movement.

50 posted on 02/04/2008 4:33:09 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It’s about 50 depending on which state could be more or less. But is that true if the money is given to charity? I think if the money is given to charity then the taxes are much less or not at all.


51 posted on 02/04/2008 4:57:05 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious
But is that true if the money is given to charity?

The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. And so also does the greed of the US Government.

Though I have no facts to back it up, my suspicion is that the Estate tax is applied before ANYONE gets their hands on that dough.

In my opinion, the Estate tax levied by the Federal Government is the most obscene of all the taxes. It taxes monies that have already been taxed. Sometimes 4 and 5 times over.
Besides that, why do they think for one second they are entitled to any of it? And at such an obscene rate. What is the justification for this tax?
I could go on but I'm not supposed to let my blood pressure elevate.

52 posted on 02/04/2008 5:39:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: rogue yam

No large ones, that’s for sure. Except Huntsman’s efforts, but I don’t think that counts, since the original prime movers are still alive. I don’t know if you can count the LDS church, since it is actually micromanaged at over 50,000 distinct locations.


53 posted on 02/04/2008 6:41:35 PM PST by Technocrat (Romney-Thompson 2008)
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To: edcoil
Just out of curiosity Ed, why do you post in Morse? FWIW my Dad is an old radio operator and taught me more as a child, but I forget most of it now. Maybe I should study up, I’m told it’s like riding a bicycle.
54 posted on 02/04/2008 6:49:12 PM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Woodman

I was only replying to the tag line on the previous post.


55 posted on 02/04/2008 6:52:53 PM PST by edcoil
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To: socialismisinsidious

If the idea was to keep as much in the family as possible he would have just structured it that way. Even if the government got 50% of the 4.5 billion, it would be billions more than the family will get now. Some people are simply good people.


56 posted on 02/04/2008 6:57:58 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: wallcrawlr

Ping


57 posted on 02/04/2008 7:03:59 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: rogue yam

Looks like the Olin Foundation did some good. Better yet, it was money that did not go to the Feds to be wasted.

Today, we have the Gates and Dell foundations, each will do better work with their money then the Feds.


58 posted on 02/04/2008 7:31:45 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Strike three.


59 posted on 02/04/2008 7:39:38 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Technocrat
...when I was working on the project, the main office was a beaten down building with carpet form the early 70s.

Green shag?

60 posted on 02/04/2008 7:50:34 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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