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Border critic gets buzzed by F-16s on recent flight
Sierra Vista Herald/Bisbee Review ^ | Ted Morris

Posted on 02/10/2008 1:12:08 PM PST by SandRat

SIERRA VISTA — A recent international airspace incident involved a critic of the government’s illegal-immigration policies and two F-16 fighter jets.

Glenn Spencer, head of the American Border Patrol, apparently triggered a security trip wire on Jan. 15 as he was flying from El Paso, Texas, in a Cessna 206.

“I was monitoring the progress of the government in securing our border, and I was intercepted by an F-16!” Spencer stated in a letter to his supporters. He uses the letter to drum up support for his watchdog cause.

The incident happened shortly after noon, about eight miles east of Douglas, as Spencer was descending from about 8,000 feet altitude, he said. And, he said, it’s possible his aircraft strayed into Mexico and came back into U.S. airspace.

His letter continued, “I thought I was going to die! He (F-16 pilot) made two passes within 100 feet of me!”

Another local private pilot says the airspace Spencer was in might have been that used for military operations.

The Bisbee Police Department noted the incident in its log of that day: “12:50 p.m., a federal air marshal reported that a Cessna 206 Highwing single engine aircraft crossed the border from Mexico to Arizona illegally. Contact was to be made with the pilot and he was to call the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) Command Center. Two air fighters were launched from Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.”

The Air Force confirmed a sortie occurred.

“I know for sure one (F-16) was scrambled,” said Capt. Lisa Dowling on Friday. She is a public affairs officer with the Western Air Defense Sector, or WADS, based at McChord Air Force Base in Washington state. WADS’ mission, according to its Web site, is to “detect, identify, track and can scramble fighters to intercept unknown or threatening airborne objects.”

On Saturday, she confirmed that two F-16s were involved in the incident.

WADS is part of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, NORAD, which is jointly operated by the United States and Canada.

Dowling said NORAD has conducted air patrols throughout the U.S. and Canada since the start of Operation Noble Eagle, the command’s response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Since then, NORAD agencies have responded to more than 2,100 possible air threats and controlled more than 48,000 patrol sorties.

The fighter intercept surprised Spencer, who for 18 months has been flying his amateur surveillance missions along the U.S.-Mexico border without incident.

“I do it all the time,” Spencer said, noting he is in regular radio contact with regional flight authorities, including Libby Army Airfield on Fort Huachuca.

“And we’re squawking, and they know who we were,” he said, describing the moments leading up to the Jan. 15 incident.

Squawking is aviation jargon meaning an airplane’s transponder is sending signals to ground radar to help controllers identify the aircraft.

During the flights between San Diego and El Paso, with the Bisbee Municipal Airport as their home base, Spencer’s crew videos the border with high-definition cameras, paying close attention to fence construction.

Using Google Earth to match video to specific locations along the border, Spencer compiles reports for Congress and other interested people. Spencer’s nonprofit group is known as the American Border Patrol, which is not to be confused with the federal government’s U.S. Border Patrol.

Spencer did travel to Washington, D.C., and met a fellow at the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation, Edwin Meese III, who served as the U.S. attorney general in President Reagan’s administration.

During his visit, Spencer also met staff members of U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, and U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. Both are staunch illegal-immigration representatives.

As of Feb. 1, according to Spencer, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security claimed to have installed 284 miles of border fence, but by his reckoning there were only 163 miles of visible fencing.

“There’s a big difference. We have proof,” Spencer said, not counting certain “fence” segments that are barriers to vehicles but remain open to foot traffic.

The Jan. 15 incident rattled Spencer as the jet fighter roared past his single-engine aircraft. “You better believe it did,” he said. “I thought he was going someplace and didn’t see me.”

The 57-year-old, who lives on the border in the Palominas area, is an experienced pilot, but he said he was more frightened from the F-16 pass than any previous incident in the air.

Spencer said, “Even though we adhered to all aviation regulations, on the ground I was met by: five patrol cars from the Bisbee Police Department, three Border Patrol vehicles, two Arizona Highway Patrol cars, two Customs and Border Protection vehicles, a drug sniffing dog … and various other officials … All the while two F-16s were flying overhead.”

Spencer’s claim could not be verified by press time.

Originally, Spencer was flying with fellow ABP’ers Mike Christie and Wes Fleming. The latter two operate the cameras from the Cessna’s rear passenger area, through an open door. Anticipating trouble, Spencer sits on a flak jacket in case he takes rifle fire from the ground.

On this particular flight, Christie was in the right-hand seat, and Spencer was in the captain’s chair on the left. Spencer said at the time of the F-16 encounter, he was letting Christie fly the plane and was teaching him dead-reckoning, which is a low-tech method of navigation that estimates one’s position by calculating direction and distance traveled.

Christie is a novice, Spencer said, “and we weren’t paying a lot of attention.”

Spencer said it is possible the craft strayed into Mexico, but he has often brushed the border in the past. He did it consciously on Oct. 19 when he flew from Bisbee to Douglas, made a 180-degree turn, flying above Agua Prieta, then cruised along the border on the Mexican side on an uneventful journey back to Bisbee.

“You have to file an international flight plan to cross the border,” said Roland Herwig, an FAA spokesman for the Southwest Region.

Even if American pilots don’t land in Mexico, they must clear U.S. Customs when they return to the U.S., he said.

Herwig said that if a person files an international flight plan and is observed returning to American airspace, the FAA can then inform intercepting fighter jets that the pilot has clearance to fly from Mexico to the United States.

Capt. Gabe Johnson, a public affairs officer with the 162nd Fighter Wing (Air National Guard) at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, whose F-16s are deployed on WADS missions from an alert detachment stationed at Tucson International Airport, commented that “private pilots would do well to know what airspace is restricted.

“Sometimes (F-16s) are scrambled for people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time, and they didn’t talk to the right people,” Johnson said.

Because he flies the border “all the time,” Spencer said U.S. radar operators know his tail number, and he maintains communication with those authorities.

“If they think I’ve done something wrong, call me up,” he said.

Spencer said not only did the F-16s and ground crews not attempt to radio him, but the interceptor jet fighters should have approached him from behind, below and on his starboard side and attempted to make visual contact. “They did none of that,” Spencer said.

He said there was a similar, though less traumatic, incident some time ago when he took a CNN crew up over Roger Barnett’s ranch near Douglas.

Dowling said she was not able to respond immediately regarding how the fighter jets applied the Air Force’s rules of engagement in this particular incident.

Francis McWilliams, a private pilot in Sierra Vista with 4,000 flight hours, said, “I’ve heard of people being buzzed before. It does not surprise me. They’ve either been buzzed accidentally or on purpose.”

McWilliams also has a friend whose airplane was struck by an AK-47 bullet while it flew along the border from Sierra Vista to Nogales, Ariz.

Consulting his charts, McWilliams also said it appears Spencer was intercepted in or near what is known as a Military Operation Area, which are special-use airspaces typically placed in rural areas to protect civilians from noise, debris and accidents. If an MOA is “hot” with activities such as military aircraft performing exercises, you don’t fly through them, McWilliams said.

As an experienced pilot with more than 6,300 hours of flying time, Spencer should be familiar with MOAs. He has been flying through that area for many months with no incident.

He also has been highly critical of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security for “not doing its job.”

F-16 stats

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is a compact, multi-role, maneuverable fighter aircraft. Since Sept. 11, 2001, the F-16 has been a major component of the combat forces committed to the war on terrorism, flying thousands of sorties in support of operations Noble Eagle (Homeland Defense), Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan and Iraqi Freedom. There are a total of 1,280 F-16s in the U.S. arsenal, at a cost of $18.8 million each.

Contractor: Lockheed Martin Corp.

Power plant: Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-200/220/229 or General Electric F110-GE-100/129

Dimensions: Wingspan, 32 feet, 8 inches; length, 49 feet, 5 inches; height, 16 feet; weight, 19,700 pounds without fuel

Speed: 1,500 mph

Range: More than 2,002 miles

Armament: One M-61A1 20mm multibarrel cannon with 500 rounds; up to six air-to-air missiles, conventional air-to-air and air-to-surface munitions and electronic countermeasure pods.

— http://www.af.mil

Herald/Review City Editor Ted Morris can be reached at 515-4614 or e-mail cityeditor@svherald.com. Senior reporter Bill Hess contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; buzzed; critic; f16s; immigrantlist; norad
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1 posted on 02/10/2008 1:12:39 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; ...

PING


2 posted on 02/10/2008 1:13:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Repeated news stories, one after another have shown that Orwell was only half right. Continuous surveillance by the people, as it turns out, is watching big brother. Big brother doesn't like it.
3 posted on 02/10/2008 1:16:35 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SandRat
Wow, that's just terrible that the USAF is patrolling our border. How dare they.

(/sarc)

4 posted on 02/10/2008 1:18:46 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: SandRat

I guess he knows that part of the border is patrolled.


5 posted on 02/10/2008 1:21:19 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: SandRat
Well, I would say that the government is trying to send Glenn a message.

How often is the 162nd scrambled to go after smuggler aircraft?

Customs sees them, even as primary targets.

A guy squawking VFR is a big deal? No. Usually he just gets a little reception committee when he lands. Possibly a Customs Citation on his butt. F-16's? Umm, hardly ever.

Methinks that Glenn's sojourn in DC last week offended some rather influential people.

Or rather, one influential person.

6 posted on 02/10/2008 1:30:54 PM PST by Regulator
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To: SandRat
“Spencer said it is possible the craft strayed into Mexico,”

well there you go.

Practicing dead reckoning to a student that close to the border??

Screw that!

I watch my GPS like a hawk when I am close to the border. And try to use VORs and ground references too!

Because why?

I don’t want an F-16 coming after me!

7 posted on 02/10/2008 1:31:58 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: SandRat
Both are staunch illegal-immigration representatives.

What? The writer of this article needs a refresher course in English composition. "Staunch representative", as opposed to "activist" or "advocate"? I guess the author means to say that they're striving for mediocrity (???).

8 posted on 02/10/2008 1:33:05 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberals: can't live with them, can't ship them to Canada.)
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To: All

Oh? I thought the southern border was “Wide Open”?


9 posted on 02/10/2008 1:34:26 PM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: SandRat

Hehe we used to patrol the border near SV in a cessna all the time. Sometimes the mexicans would take shots at you if you buzzed them, but I never saw any F16s and even the A10’s will leave you alone if you stay out of hauchucas airspace ;0)


10 posted on 02/10/2008 1:34:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: inkling; Tribune7

The part that gets me about this story is this - It takes at least a couple of hours to fly from El Paso to Douglas. The flight is parallel to the border. The pilot has his transponder turned on and radio tuned to GUARD.

So, what is it about his profile that triggers a scramble from local Air Defense assets? Druggies cross the border, they don’t fly alongside it.

I know Glen tangentially; I’m fairly certain his recounting of the events is accurate. There’s just more to this story than we’re being told.

As usual...


11 posted on 02/10/2008 1:35:04 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~ NRA Life Member)
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To: SandRat; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Border Incursion Ping!

Although, not quite the one you’d expect...


12 posted on 02/10/2008 1:36:32 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~ NRA Life Member)
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To: Regulator
Methinks that Glenn's sojourn in DC last week offended some rather influential people.

Right. And in order to send him a message, they waited until his next flight and sent F-16's to do it instead of knocking on his door at midnight.

13 posted on 02/10/2008 1:37:15 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; HiJinx
I flew professionally for many years in Tucson.

I recall hearing about F-16's intercepting suspected smuggler aircraft not once.

That job is left to Customs and AZ DPS (back then, DPS had one gnarly old T-28, a couple of Cessnas, and a few helicopters).

Now I really have always thought that the AZ ANG should be aggressively patrolling the border. But the excuse for that has always been, "well, posse comitatus, you know, we only look for military incursions, not law violators".

Uh-Huh.

So this clearly is a little message. We all know that when the Minutemen started up, the BP, Customs, and even AZ DPS had it out for them. That has become clear in the wake of a number of incidents.

There is no doubt in my mind that Glenn is under the same sort of Fatwa from the feds. He normally treads carefully and openly - isn't amazing that a heroic American has to do that, while Mexican reconquistas enjoy near fawning protection of the federal government?

But they are obviously waiting for even the smallest slip-up on Glenn's part, which will then be treated as a Big Thing.

Don't tell me this wasn't planned.

14 posted on 02/10/2008 1:59:11 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

It’s pretty clear that the rules for military jets changed after September 11th. Look what happened there, two unarmed jets . . . that was pretty much it.


15 posted on 02/10/2008 2:03:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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16 posted on 02/10/2008 2:04:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: HiJinx
I do appreciate there might be something questionable about the USAF's action here. However, 99.98 percent of the time, I'm going to give our military the benefit of the doubt.

Unlike our "friends" at DU, Move On and the Berkeley City Council, at FR we recognize that those fighter pilots are heroes to be admired, not enemies to be despised. And alleging that the USAF is involved in some "truther" style conspiracy against the American people is very dangerous ground to walk on.

17 posted on 02/10/2008 2:05:26 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: inkling

The thing is that they dont take their orders from “the American people.”


18 posted on 02/10/2008 2:10:35 PM PST by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: SandRat

One of the pilots?

19 posted on 02/10/2008 2:11:20 PM PST by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: DogBarkTree

I want no part of any movement which views our military as “the enemy.” That is no different from the moonbat left.


20 posted on 02/10/2008 2:14:54 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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